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did anyone get any good sponsership
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Posted by: jonnyknk
i did anyone here back from any sponsers yet
I sent out a lot of stuff
but i did not get anthing back yet
Posted by: gibson400ex
We Gabriel Racing are getting sponsored by Herrmann Racing....i think, Brad and my brother talked about it and stuff so ya i think we getting sponsored by them......i wanted to get Sponosered By KANDK but i havent raced yet and i dont even think they sponsor people that race blaster/400ex's or people who are going to race them
Posted by: Out_Sider
i havent even sent out things asking for one yet...i might need to start..
Posted by: racerx573
It's a little late to send stuff out. Most stop accepting late October or November. Tag accepts year round though.
So far I've got:
Amsoil Racing
Custom Axis Shocks
Maier Plastics
Quad Customs
Mother's Waxes & Polishes
Motion Pro
Galfer
OMF Performance
Quad Customs
SANDSTORM RACING
Sick Style ATV
Smith Optics
Tag Metals
Terry Racing
Posted by: QuadJunkies
We didi. Our winter race entries are pd for and also paid for several Mods too.....
most of ours are Local Sponsors and our local Honda shop and tire shop give us disc. parts if needed......
Posted by: dirtmomma
WE have a few, got some $$ from one & maching work for free,embroidered coats free, my son has AC racing also. Next season though I 'm gonna be working on some more. We also have a bike shop we get a discount at.
Posted by: redroost85
Yep! I just picked up a new one today. I used to work at a place that made roll-off dumpsters and my old boss is gonna help me out big time. He likes all the new exposure, lol! He is gonna let me use a company flatbed to haul my quad to the tracks and add some new parts for my ride.
I am so glad that I won't have to pack my 400 into the ole s-10 anymore, lol!
Posted by: Duncanracer
i got a few D@mn good deals because of tinas help...
thanks!
and ahve sponsorship from
triumph motorsports
AC
Duncan
Elka shocks
Goat
Dp brakes
RK chain
blaisracing.com
GPR
winex helmets
manor real eastate
hopefully guilty.com
Posted by: LTandRaptorider
Sponsorships...
Oh, that's where I sneak out in the middle of the night and take money out of the wife's purse... 
Posted by: MA-KAN-IK
Did anyone get picked by Yamaha, Kaw, or honda yet?
Anyone know who's riding for them?
Posted by: QuadJunkies
quote:
Originally posted by Duncanracer
i got a few D@mn good deals because of tinas help...
thanks!
and ahve sponsorship from
triumph motorsports
AC
Duncan
Elka shocks
Goat
Dp brakes
RK chain
blaisracing.com
GPR
winex helmets
manor real eastate
hopefully guilty.com
CONGRADULATIONS!!!!!!Glad I could be of help!!! Im very happy for you!
Posted by: Quad4x4
quote:
Originally posted by MA-KAN-IK
Did anyone get picked by Yamaha, Kaw, or honda yet?
Anyone know who's riding for them?
I hear Kaw did pick up a "new rider" to their stable that I believe is a member of this forum.
Posted by: gibson400ex
quote:
Originally posted by Quad4x4
I hear Kaw did pick up a "new rider" to their stable that I believe is a member of this forum.
i know it is me
Posted by: Jeff@TireBalls
quote:
Originally posted by Quad4x4
I hear Kaw did pick up a "new rider" to their stable that I believe is a member of this forum.
I didn't know Bryan Baker was a member!
Posted by: gibson400ex
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
I didn't know Bryan Baker was a member!
but im the rider seriously
Posted by: Quad4x4
Last year Utility Unlimited results should make it obvious.
Posted by: cyclepro26
i got sponsorship from a real good engine builder.
Posted by: gimp419
I sent my resume out to about 15 or 20 companies around the last of August. So far I've landed sponsorship deals with the following:
NAC's Racing
Spy Optics
Custom Axis
Denton Racing
Houser Racing
F&S Suzuki
And my local bike shop Cycle and Skate Connection that gives me dealer cost on everything like, Fox gear, tires, wheels, AC Racing products, Alba Racing products, and anything from White brothers that's just to name some.
Hope to hear back from some more potential sponsors real soon.
Posted by: gibson400ex
quote:
Originally posted by gibson400ex
but im the rider seriously
j/k...... i wouldnt ride a kawi no offense
Posted by: *$BlueFlash$*
Congrats to the V-Force Kaw rider just picked up! I think he is a local District 11 racer and it is awsome that he got it!
William I hear is on the same as last year and Duvall is with Am-Pro and a few new ones out west. Havent heard much about Borich or Ballance and I think I heard Matt is on the YFZ team sufari(watch him, he came on strong on that production bike)should make for some awsome ATV racing this year.
Posted by: indygncc
I think the new Kawi rider might go by the name Douge Henke!!!
He definitely deserved a ride this year.
Baker will be riding for them also.
Posted by: TRX500
Congrats Doug!!!!!! Can't wait to see those new bikes.
Posted by: Dunlap
quote:
Originally posted by *$BlueFlash$*
Congrats to the V-Force Kaw rider just picked up! I think he is a local District 11 racer and it is awsome that he got it!
William I hear is on the same as last year and Duvall is with Am-Pro and a few new ones out west. Havent heard much about Borich or Ballance and I think I heard Matt is on the YFZ team sufari(watch him, he came on strong on that production bike)should make for some awsome ATV racing this year.
Ballance got a Yamaha ride!
Posted by: gibson400ex
quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Dunlap
Ballance got a Yamaha ride!
http://www.ricoracing.netfirms.com/Smilies/foshizzle.gif
Posted by: *$BlueFlash$*
Ballance: 2 bikes, parts, No Cash
Jeramiha Jones(MX) same deal!
The future for ATV is getting better!
Posted by: Dunlap
Ballance 4 quads,parts and win money but they signed too soon.
Posted by: justdirt
come on Mickey tell us whats up. were is honda
Posted by: remlapr
quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Dunlap
Ballance got a Yamaha ride!
I was hoping he would be riding red next year....
Posted by: Dave400ex
Mickey please give us some more details. Sounds like Yamaha got 2 of the best riders in the world.
Posted by: Santo DeRisi
quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Dunlap
Ballance got a Yamaha ride!
Mickey,
Did he get a Factory Yamaha ride?
Posted by: Dunlap
Dont get to pumped up about factory ride even Hawk and Raines have to pay for there bikes. Honda is the only one that gives you your atv and pays everything and they are not getting in to GNCC at this time. Then again Chad Wallace has one of the best deal with GAS GAS though me.
Posted by: 465Stroker
I am just glad Yamaha is supporting some well known racers.
I am still waiting to see what Racer Productions has coordinated with the BIG 4 to help bring contigencies to the table for our hard working ATV racers. Since we have not heard anything yet - It was most likely too late.
Posted by: Dave400ex
It is great that Yamaha is offering them support. They both deserve it. Hopefully this will bring more money to our sport and make it bigger.
Posted by: 400exmom
*the quad shop
*fleshgear
Posted by: Greg Z
quote:
Originally posted by gibson400ex
http://www.ricoracing.netfirms.com/Smilies/foshizzle.gif
why does the smiley have to be black...
i smell racism
Posted by: gibson400ex
no i was meaning that it was cool ballance got yamaha or whatever....no racisim.......i got it off of rico's webpage.....awesome site RICO!!!!
Posted by: tants
I just got my envolope yesterday from nacs racing...
they accepted my resume for the 2004 season, i was so syked
anyways not much but it all helps...
(thanks again
Nacs Racing
AC Racing
Pappys Performance Coatings
Bad *** Products
Posted by: gibson400ex
quote:
Originally posted by tants
I just got my envolope yesterday from nacs racing...
they accepted my resume for the 2004 season, i was so syked
anyways not much but it all helps...
(thanks again
Nacs Racing
AC Racing
Pappys Performance Coatings
Bad *** Products
sweet!!!.....do you live Near Orane County Choppers???( my fav show besides gncc racing)
Posted by: gibson400ex
quote:
Originally posted by tants
I just got my envolope yesterday from nacs racing...
they accepted my resume for the 2004 season, i was so syked
anyways not much but it all helps...
(thanks again
Nacs Racing
AC Racing
Pappys Performance Coatings
Bad *** Products
sweet!!!.....do you live Near Orane County Choppers???( my fav show besides gncc racing)
Posted by: holeshot19
quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Dunlap
Ballance 4 quads,parts and win money but they signed too soon.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN
Posted by: roostin_dale
I sent out about 15.
got one for sure from www.cannondaleriders.com
Maybe Lonestar and Nac's Racing...I got letters back from them so far. Not many but every bit counts like you guys said.
Posted by: Smokey
Hey anyone that knows Hawk or Raines should call and ask about thier deal . I how they get thier bikes and why it is done the way it is . As for Ballance , I was told from a very good source that Yamaha offered 2 bikes+ parts , NO MONEY . Billy is wanting more and Yamaha has not gotten back to him . Why is all this like a bike soap opra ??? Always someone starting rumors that are only partly true . best way to find out is ask the person that has the deal .
Posted by: Johnny_G
I am currently as i type this on the phone with Mr. Ballance, and he is slightly amused at all the speculation as to what he may or may not have signed........as he is not a member of these forums, he asked me to let all the inquisitve minds know that he has not yet signed ANY contract with ANY ATV manufacturer.
He also said that if you want to know the true plans for Bill's 04 program........stayed tuned to www.gnccracing.com when he does sign something it will be posted there first.
Just for a little sneak peek see the picture below!!!!!!!!!!!!
He sent me this picture and stated that this is what he will most likely be flying through the woods on in 2004.
Wow this thing looks trick!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Pappy
i cant belive bill bought monkeyboy's trike
Posted by: ILGNCC400EX
is monkeyboy goin to be his new partner. i guess his brother is out now
Posted by: Jeff@TireBalls
Thanks Johnny C for setting the record straght!
Posted by: Varmit57
This will be my 3th year with NAC's and their deal gets better every year... I also got Thor finally after asking them for 4 years. Not a great deal but should get better next year.
TAG, MAIER, Oury, Scott, LRD, Oneal, GS3, K&K, Carbon Fiber Works, Mothers and K&N have never turned me down. Of course I can't take them all becuse some are competators, but its nice to now that they support us...
Posted by: Smokey
Thank You Johnny . I knew he had not signed anythign yet ,but is working on a couple differant deals ...Keep us posted
Posted by: Dave400ex
Well at least we know the real info now. Thanks Johnny. Hopefully he does get a great ride because he deserves it.
Posted by: Dunlap
Just got off the phone, Bill just made a two year deal with GAS GAS details will be out Mon.
Posted by: Jeff@TireBalls
quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Dunlap
Just got off the phone, Bill just made a two year deal with GAS GAS details will be out Mon.
Boy, now its getting deep!!!
Posted by: Dunlap
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
Boy, now its getting deep!!!
I know but I couldn't help it.
Posted by: rowlrag
LOL, Ballance probly has to pay Monkeyboy for that sweet Ride
Posted by: *$BlueFlash$*
Johnny, Great info and well put. Straight from the source is how it should be posted. Bill does deserve a great ride and anyone of us that ride blue would be glad he was on that team. Hope all will be at rest at the ATV banquet!
As for the person with the incorrect info...Less word from you the better! Wouldnt it be nice to see the PM about you!
Posted by: foxracingpredat
ballance on a GAS GAS,,i dont believe that?!!
Posted by: Jeff@TireBalls
I can officially announce now that I closed a deal with ATK today for 2004. 
Posted by: z400ACDC
BB on a Crap Crap LOL And Jeremiah will be on a factory E-TON
Posted by: Dunlap
quote:
Originally posted by *$BlueFlash$*
Johnny, Great info and well put. Straight from the source is how it should be posted. Bill does deserve a great ride and anyone of us that ride blue would be glad he was on that team. Hope all will be at rest at the ATV banquet!
As for the person with the incorrect info...Less word from you the better! Wouldnt it be nice to see the PM about you!
You said to keep it fun and Iam having such a good day.
Posted by: z400ACDC
My crystal ball tells me Bill will be Gt thundering to the sound of a HMF YFZ.
Posted by: bradley300
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
I can officially announce now that I closed a deal with ATK today for 2004.
congrats jeff, i think you deserve it more than anybody! so what are the details? does this mean i get to hang out at an ATK trailer next year!?
Posted by: popo
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff@QuadShop
I can officially announce now that I closed a deal with ATK today for 2004.
Congrats Jeff, Who's driving the ATK semi?
Posted by:
Way ta go pappa fro...
Posted by: atvchik
Congrat's Jeff!!!
Posted by: jcv400ex
That's awesome Jeff! Glad to hear! 
Posted by: 98Lakota
Congrats Jeff. Not giving up on the 'Dale has really payed off for you.
Posted by: Jeff@TireBalls
Thanks guys and gal! I stuck with the Dale because it never let me down and I still haven't rode a bike that I like better.
Posted by: remlapr
That's awesome Jeff, congratulations! - I guess it was really a perfect fit for you and ATK!
Posted by: Dave400ex
Good to hear. Hope you can finish even better next season.
Posted by: AtvMxRider
Thats great to hear Jeff.
Posted by: 1rancher
Good Job, Jeff
Posted by: MEL
congrats jeff. wonder how many factories will end up backing gncc racers?
Posted by: tants
quote:
Originally posted by gibson400ex
sweet!!!.....do you live Near Orane County Choppers???( my fav show besides gncc racing)
yup! im about 45mins from OC Choppers...
the shop is located in the middle of know where. it was very hard to find, and the shop is very tiny in person... the guys were pretty cool there. they sell all the OCC clothing all around here... (like in hot toppic and other stores)
Posted by: gibson400ex
that's sick!!!
Posted by: dirtmomma
quote:
Originally posted by tants
yup! im about 45mins from OC Choppers...
the shop is located in the middle of know where. it was very hard to find, and the shop is very tiny in person... the guys were pretty cool there. they sell all the OCC clothing all around here... (like in hot toppic and other stores)
Oh man how cool would that be!!!! I'd be there all the time or tryin to get a job there hehehe Watch em all the time, Paulie Jr ooooolllllllllaaaaaaaallllllllllaaaaaaaaa 
OH geez sorry got carried away
Posted by: Smokey
I dont know who has tried this buy I have a friend that did this and has gotten a lot of sponsers . Go to www.sponsorhouse.com and post a resume and pick who you want it to go to . one guy told me he got like 30+ sponsors through them ........hope this helps someone
Posted by: jgfarmsracer
quote:
Originally posted by z400ACDC
My crystal ball tells me Bill will be Gt thundering to the sound of a HMF YFZ.
WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: jlhughes750
he said she said what????
some people who seem like they should know something, make jokes that seem as though they could be true. sure they are jokes and in good fun, but it kinda ruins there credibility.
Johnny G's keepin it real!!! Stoess is keepin it real. Even Andy L and Mr. Derisi are statin the facts!!!! Way to go guys!!
I guess we'll see in O4 what everyones riding???
Posted by: Greg Z
any one want to sponsor me or have any ways i can get a little spnsor i dont care what kind anything that will help me pm me or im me on aim
newjacksm - aim
gurrggreggerg@aol.com
thnx
Posted by: kandk440ex#8
i sent out alot but only one i got back and its roll design did n e one get one from them
Posted by: jgfarmsracer
ya i got one
not alot but it helps
Posted by: Sick0
Whats a decent main sponsor for a expert pro-am level rider.
Posted by: jgfarmsracer
quote:
Originally posted by Sick0
Whats a decent main sponsor for a expert pro-am level rider.
FREE!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Out_Sider
i just got aimsoil as a sponsor
Posted by: ridefastrgetoff
Free, I like the sound of that ! Yeppers !
Posted by: roostin_dale
I just got a letter from Nac's Racing today....i was so supprised. They are going to be a pretty Big sponsor for me in 2004.
Posted by: TC17
i got these guys V. Thomas Racing is hopefully going to buy me the 450R, if not, i'm getting a job. Nac's is my main one, dealer cost, sidewinder is dealer cost, weller is dealer cost plus 10%, ims dealer cost, renegade racing 20% off, gap racing 30% off. not bad for my 2nd year.
Posted by: ridefastrgetoff
Have you ever considered writing the rest of your expenses off by making them tax deductible ? Actually you reduce your taxable income by having the deductions; if you don't understand all this tax stuff, have your parents have a look. It's a huge deduction for us every year ! Check out our site to see what all is deductible; it will amaze you and the dollars are sick !
Posted by: QuadJunkies
quote:
Originally posted by ridefastrgetoff
Have you ever considered writing the rest of your expenses off by making them tax deductible ? Actually you reduce your taxable income by having the deductions; if you don't understand all this tax stuff, have your parents have a look. It's a huge deduction for us every year ! Check out our site to see what all is deductible; it will amaze you and the dollars are sick !
How can you do that????!!! I heard that before,but didnt think it was possiblem, if thats the case...I should have alot of write offs!!!
Posted by: ridefastrgetoff
There are tons of business owners that have race teams and they advertise their businesses and because of the advertising, decals or painted on logos of their business with phone numbers or websites, they are using their bikes, quads, trailors, trucks, etc., etc, as advertising - better known as rolling bill-boards. I'm sure we can all agree on this ! If you too had a business and you advertised it the same way, it would be a tax deduction; Pit Passes, Gate Fees, Mileage, Cell Phone, Meals, Hotels, Replacement Parts, Bike(s), Trailor, Pull Truck, Computer, Internet, etc., etc. would all be part of your business and thus tax deductible. By tax deductible we're simply talking about reducing your taxable income if you have a full-time job and that covers most race teams; very few folks have a full-time job that is part of their race team. By reducing your taxable income it's simple and here's an example: Let's say you make $50K / Yr. at your full-time job but your business had $10,000 in expenses, you adjusted gross income would now be $40K for the same Yr. - this means you over-paid your taxes because with your deductions you should be in a lower tax braket and thus you are owed a large refund. I realize that $10,000 for a race team for an entire year is probably very low ! Keep this in mind, whatever you deduct, you can expect approx. 1/3 of that back on your Refund and that's a huge Sponsorship if you wanna call it that. Whatever you call it, that's the name of the game, having fun at the cheapest possible way. If you wanna know more just ask - sorry, I'm tired of typing. haha Pretty exciting you must admit !
Posted by: QuadJunkies
quote:
Originally posted by ridefastrgetoff
There are tons of business owners that have race teams and they advertise their businesses and because of the advertising, decals or painted on logos of their business with phone numbers or websites, they are using their bikes, quads, trailors, trucks, etc., etc, as advertising - better known as rolling bill-boards. I'm sure we can all agree on this ! If you too had a business and you advertised it the same way, it would be a tax deduction; Pit Passes, Gate Fees, Mileage, Cell Phone, Meals, Hotels, Replacement Parts, Bike(s), Trailor, Pull Truck, Computer, Internet, etc., etc. would all be part of your business and thus tax deductible. By tax deductible we're simply talking about reducing your taxable income if you have a full-time job and that covers most race teams; very few folks have a full-time job that is part of their race team. By reducing your taxable income it's simple and here's an example: Let's say you make $50K / Yr. at your full-time job but your business had $10,000 in expenses, you adjusted gross income would now be $40K for the same Yr. - this means you over-paid your taxes because with your deductions you should be in a lower tax braket and thus you are owed a large refund. I realize that $10,000 for a race team for an entire year is probably very low ! Keep this in mind, whatever you deduct, you can expect approx. 1/3 of that back on your Refund and that's a huge Sponsorship if you wanna call it that. Whatever you call it, that's the name of the game, having fun at the cheapest possible way. If you wanna know more just ask - sorry, I'm tired of typing. haha Pretty exciting you must admit !
nice........... I was just reading over the site and unfortunaltly... I dont have a racing team just a full house or Racers....
Posted by: Smokey
I have tried this and was told that the only way you can do it is to have some income from the racing , like about half of your expenses ...I did it one time years ago and havent been able to since .....
Posted by: ridefastrgetoff
if you have questions plz email us and we can talk about your specific needs and circumstances. Thanks.
Email: lubes4u@myexcel
or Message Us
Posted by: QuadJunkies
Cross your fingers . I may have ELKA as sponsor this next year. I wasnt sure who all is still taking resumes, looks liek they arwe still...: sending in more info. tomorrow
Posted by: 416exguy
So far I have Elka and Scott USA. Hopefully a couple more...
Posted by: roostin_dale
QuadJunkies, Nac's is accepting until December 31st. Hurry up and send one in
Posted by: QuadJunkies
quote:
Originally posted by roostin_dale
QuadJunkies, Nac's is accepting until December 31st. Hurry up and send one in
thank you ,thank you thank you.......
Posted by: roostin_dale
quote:
Originally posted by QuadJunkies
thank you ,thank you thank you.......
No problem
Posted by: QuadJunkies
ok....... I have a question for those who have had a bit more experience in this..I got an email from Eldebrock today telling me that they arenot doing sponsohip at this time.BUT. Asked me to send him a "letter of Proposal" If they arent taking resumesthen why would I send him a proposal? Im a little confused I guess by this. I got one other letter the same pretty much and said Congrats on TV segment...So what do I do? My proposals area bit different that I use for local businesses and nothing I would want to send its not that good....So ....what do I do ? Any help would be greatly appreciated...
Posted by: gibson400ex
quote:
Originally posted by QuadJunkies
ok....... I have a question for those who have had a bit more experience in this..I got an email from Eldebrock today telling me that they arenot doing sponsohip at this time.BUT. Asked me to send him a "letter of Proposal" If they arent taking resumesthen why would I send him a proposal? Im a little confused I guess by this. I got one other letter the same pretty much and said Congrats on TV segment...So what do I do? My proposals area bit different that I use for local businesses and nothing I would want to send its not that good....So ....what do I do ? Any help would be greatly appreciated...
quadjunkies-ummm........dno bout that proposal?but you said in the thread " chat on christmas night " or somthign like that. i was wonderign what bravenet is? is it another name for the exriders chatroom?
Posted by: 416exguy
Also, just got East Coast ATV. Shweeeet
Posted by: gibson400ex
eastcoastatv.......nice. what is there deal with you. i was talking to Jason Kovac online and he told me he could get me a sponsorship from there for 15% off if i put there graphics on my bike
Posted by: dirtmomma
quote:
Originally posted by QuadJunkies
Cross your fingers . I may have ELKA as sponsor this next year. I wasnt sure who all is still taking resumes, looks liek they arwe still...: sending in more info. tomorrow
Thats awesome Tina you go girl, heck I havne't sent a one in anywhere, I was kinda waiting to see how i finished this year out but it seems like they all take resume's earlier than that!!
Posted by: dawzie
Our two main sponsors are Walsh Race Craft and our Yami dealer Century Cycle. From the bike shop we get cost on everything and free shop work. Walsh doesn't want me to say what we get but I'm not disappointed that he had our YFZ for 6 months. Through Walsh we got a screaming deal on the Pep's LT ARC shocks, AC stuff, Hyper wheels, Kenda and Razr tires and Sparks.
Posted by: gibson400ex
quote:
Originally posted by dawzie
Our two main sponsors are Walsh Race Craft and our Yami dealer Century Cycle. From the bike shop we get cost on everything and free shop work. Walsh doesn't want me to say what we get but I'm not disappointed that he had our YFZ for 6 months. Through Walsh we got a screaming deal on the Pep's LT ARC shocks, AC stuff, Hyper wheels, Kenda and Razr tires and Sparks.
Pimp,PImp
Posted by: ny300exrider
well i didnt send any out this year but im going to train all this spring and summer then start sending in the resumes. id love to get a company who would give alittle discount to run their graphics or something like that
Posted by: QuadJunkies
quote:
Originally posted by gibson400ex
quadjunkies-ummm........dno bout that proposal?but you said in the thread " chat on christmas night " or somthign like that. i was wonderign what bravenet is? is it another name for the exriders chatroom?
um..... You have Exriders Chatroom listed at the bottom of your profile.??? sO I asume you have been there .......right???????
Posted by: gibson400ex
ya i found out right after i posted that what time are we gonna have the chat? is it like 5 o'clock here over in Boston Mass2
Posted by: QuadJunkies
quote:
Originally posted by gibson400ex
ya i found out right after i posted that what time are we gonna have the chat? is it like 5 o'clock here over in Boston Mass2
Its Mountain time my time, so I think thats 7pm your time?????
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