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Posted by: RiPPiNiTuP7

Goooooooooooooo Suzuki!

Posted by: nacsracer27

Posted by: ZSK

I vote blaster, cause you can still ride it, and Yamahahahahaha still does there own R&D

Posted by: nacsracer27

quality tinfoilalloy

Posted by: Fred55

And the funny thing is that is it a Blaster. LMAO

Posted by: Evan400ex

I would take a Blaster over a Suzuki anyday! Suzuki=P.O.S

Posted by: TeamC&GRacer

dude thats nothing, we were playing quad tag yesterday and my little brother on a 300ex ran head on with a yamaha breeze, they were going to fast, but the 300's frame bent and was tweaked bad, need a new frame, the breeze didnt get a scratch... its f'd up...

Posted by: newjacksm

how the **** do you play quad tag

i rather get naked and walk around the mall

EDIT : what i mean is that................. I wwould get naked in the mall and walk around.. all thoughs fine ladies want a peace of the gregulater

Posted by: ZRider400

Tin Foil Alloy kicks ***

Posted by: Castor-426ex

i bet that tightens the turning radius huh?

Posted by: Z400central

its call physics guys...hit any thing in the right spot and it will break...

Posted by: rider250ex

dont get fancy with this physics $hit...its called weak...

Posted by: newjacksm

quote:
Originally posted by rider250ex
dont get fancy with this physics $hit...its called weak...

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LOL!!!

Posted by: Pvt. Maggot

and if you didn't notice all the frames bent the same way...hmm...

Posted by: RiPPiNiTuP7

quote:
Originally posted by Z400central
its call physics guys...hit any thing in the right spot and it will break...

LOL, sorry that isn't going to work for this one

Posted by: MOFO

quote:
Originally posted by Z400central
its call physics guys...hit any thing in the right spot and it will break...

LMAO, its called a WEAK SPOT in the frame....or as others might call it... a manufacturing defect or bad engineering.

Posted by: Evan400ex

Its called DON"T BUY SUZUKI!!!!!!!

Posted by: Castor-426ex

so they ran out of steel and used Jello....is that bad?

Posted by: Pvt. Maggot

mmmmmmm...jello

Posted by: mxrdr

lol.

leson 101: dont buy a suzuki

Posted by: Dune Surfer

look at the bright side, it turns right great!!

Posted by: AtvMxRider

quote:
Originally posted by Evan400ex
Its called DON"T BUY SUZUKI!!!!!!!

Posted by: Glow Plug

quote:
Originally posted by Castor-426ex
so they ran out of steel and used Jello....is that bad?

the new and impoved eatable frame huh?

Posted by: phatswinn

if circle tracks ran clockwise they would be on top of the racing scene

Posted by: Castor-426ex

quote:
Originally posted by Glow Plug
the new and impoved eatable frame huh?

i always liked lemon and lime

Posted by: 4TraxRider

I'm not going to flame any machine or anybody, but I see it this way. Every machine has problems. The Z's frame is week, i got one last saturday, and I already cracked the frame above the shock mounts. With the amount of extra money you have to spend to get the EX's engine up to speed, it will break about even to get a better frame for the Z, or gusset it. EVery machine has week points, raptor=tranny, Z=frame, EX= engine,DS= steering, everything has its week points. I'll never get rid of my EX, but I like the Z a lot. Just my .02.

Posted by: z400ACDC

I had had my Z for over a year now with no problems. I will agree that the Z frame is weak as a wet noodle

What I can't understand is why people are not gusseting the frames on them when they know it is a problem? I know it is a pain to tear them down but, what else can you do? A frame job goes for about $250 around here. JUST DO IT!

Posted by: nacsracer27

quote:
Originally posted by 4TraxRider
I'm not going to flame any machine or anybody, but I see it this way. Every machine has problems. The Z's frame is week, i got one last saturday, and I already cracked the frame above the shock mounts. With the amount of extra money you have to spend to get the EX's engine up to speed, it will break about even to get a better frame for the Z, or gusset it. EVery machine has week points, raptor=tranny, Z=frame, EX= engine,DS= steering, everything has its week points. I'll never get rid of my EX, but I like the Z a lot. Just my .02.

my 400ex had plenty of power when it was stock..and im sure a lot of other people will agree with me...the 400ex is a bullet proof quad in more ways than one...and if you spend 2k on a frame..you can get a 400ex to ahve more power for less than 1k...so your theory is wrong

Posted by: 4TraxRider

I meant gusseting, not new frame sorry. The main thing I'm getting at with the frame breakage thing is, if everybody who buys a Z knows that the frame is weak, gusset it. Don't go and buy a slip-on to get a few more ponies, then complain about frame breaking, for the same amount of money, you can gusset it. If you ride hard enough to tweak the frame, you should know enough to get it fixed before having to spend money on new frames and parts.

Posted by: nacsracer27

quote:
Originally posted by 4TraxRider
I meant gusseting, not new frame sorry. The main thing I'm getting at with the frame breakage thing is, if everybody who buys a Z knows that the frame is weak, gusset it. Don't go and buy a slip-on to get a few more ponies, then complain about frame breaking, for the same amount of money, you can gusset it. If you ride hard enough to tweak the frame, you should know enough to get it fixed before having to spend money on new frames and parts.

this frame was gusseted

http://www.angelfire.com/anime4/my400ex/bent_frame.jpg

Posted by: kentuckycat

Has anyone even considered NOT RUNNING INTO THINGS?!?! Whether it be another quad, tree, or whatever... I understand that some frames have bent from jumping, but these pictures are of the Z's being run into or ran into something. I bet if we keep our Z's off of other quads and such, this frame bending problem will go away on its own.

Posted by: Crazy4bluEx

Yes.... i expect my 400ex 2 hit a tree 3rd gear pinned, and there wont be a scratch..... why? because its a HONDA!!!!! lol, j.k.
this is quite an amusing thread, as previously stated, almost anything will break when you run it head on into a solid object that weighs in the same ball park, or has the resistance of a brick wall ..... im stumped

Posted by: 4TraxRider

I just bent my EX frame in a crash last weekend, and I cracked the shock mounts on my Z two days after I got it, before I even had a chance to gusset it. The Z should be back in order tonight or tomarrow though, I don't know about the Ex though.

Posted by: Rip_Tear

Its surprizing what "any" quad will take if you think about, like I know people who have pretty much run straight into something and dead stopped with no damage. Some things are bad engineering and some are just flukes but the Z thing seems werid that its always the right side...

Posted by: CEET400ex

haha what a piece of $hit...honda all da way

Posted by: Nausty

quote:
Originally posted by nacsracer27
my 400ex had plenty of power when it was stock..and im sure a lot of other people will agree with me...the 400ex is a bullet proof quad in more ways than one...and if you spend 2k on a frame..you can get a 400ex to ahve more power for less than 1k...so your theory is wrong

I got a stock motor besides exhaust and filter in my machine if that means anything...

i've put my frame through SO MUCH its not even funny, I got some stress marks above the front shock mounts and peg mounts but i'm not complaining. I've had it for about 2 years and have hit so many huge jumps and put it through so much and shes still ticking.

Posted by: ZSK

quote:
Originally posted by Pvt. Maggot
and if you didn't notice all the frames bent the same way...hmm...

Coincidence?

Posted by: lil400exman

quote:
Originally posted by cleanshave300ex
Coincidence?

nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Posted by: Chef

LMAO. You think those frames are bad. Atleast they are only bent in one spot. I'm just dyin to get the plastic off my Banshee...its been straighted like 4 times now. Once the rear plastic was pointing at the ground it was so bad.

Posted by: 44oEX

Just for some good suzuki bashing

My friend has 22 gussets in his frame and still broke the frame at 18 different places. The second day he had it he bent the axle and he also bent like 8 tie rods. He went to a little race and he pulled out the bottum mount of his sub frame ( there is no stress on the sub frame )

This guy is not that crazy just regular jumps ( no 100 footers ) and some gravel pit ridding. I do avery thing he does with me EX and did not break anything.

The other day he took it apart and the left top pipe just fell off.
That was after some trail riding

SORRY to say it but the Z frame really sucks

Get a HONDA and hop up the motor and it's alot better then the Z.

Posted by: z400ACDC

Brandon Ballance has pounded his Z all year with no frame problems. The gussets and pc is about $250 around here. Cheap mod!

Posted by: 44oEX

yeah but he probably changed frames after every race or every other race.

Posted by: markeg192

Can't we all get along? It doesn't matter what you ride. (as long a it's a Honda)

Posted by: z400ACDC

quote:
Originally posted by 44oEX
yeah but he probably changed frames after every race or every other race.

One Z, one frame, all year!

I am not brand loyal; I have ridden several brands and all of them had flaws.

Posted by: 44oEX

His frame is gusseted and he has one of best suspention you can buy ( that help alot) because it is not has hard on the frame. The shocks just take the pounding