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Best wheelie bike?
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Posted by: siberthugd

What's up guys? I haven't been around in a while, I sold my 250EX and my 250R and had to buy a new car. Anyways, I loved the 250EX for the wheelies, as some of you guys might know how they wheelie. So now I'm in the market for another bike, but I'm gonna buy used. Out of ANY make and model, what do you guys think would make a great stunt quad (for wheelies). I will rarely ride in the trails or pits, as mASSachusetts is getting stupid w/ ATV laws. So I figure if I'm gonna get busted, I might as well wheelie the streets. At this point I don't care. I also got picked up by a motorcycle stunt team who let me show off on one of their bikes. I toyed with the idea of a Suzuki LT250R or an older Banshee. I need something that will carry my fat butt in nice long wheelies. I'm not into top speed or handling, just straight up torque. How are blasters? I've never riden one and never wanted to, but they are cheap. Anybody with a bike that has good OR bad "wheelie reviews", please post them here. Also let me know if your "wheelie review bike" was modded in any way and the year. I am mechanically inclined so reliabilty/maintenence isn't priority #1. I appreciate all the help and info. ~Robbie

Posted by: Nausty

400ex is the best by far imo. The new yzf sucks for wheelies imo, the raptor tends to get boggy on a wheelie imo, banshees are hard to keep in the balance point and require you to be ready to hit the brakes constantly.

Posted by: SpeedBump

Well, I got a 2000 400EX, 1998 300EX, and a 2003 250EX here at my house. I ride them all, and for wheelies......I like the 300EX best. The 250EX is a little down on power and harder to shift smooth. The 400EX is fine, but the 300EX seems to balanace a bit better, bit more forgiving. BTW I can go through all the gears on the back wheels on each of the machines, so it isn't a matter on not being able to ride better on one than another, just which is it easier to do it on. Anything you pick (As long as it is a Honda 4stroke

) will be just fine. Just my 2 cents.

Posted by: Glow Plug

The 400ex is the best Imo

Posted by: K2Snow

Only quad I've ever wheelied with was an '03 stock 300ex. i've only had the bike for about a week, but i can do great wheelies standing on the grab bar. If you just wanna do wheelies, go with the 300ex over the 400ex. No reason to spend all that extra money if you're not gonna use the extra power.

Posted by: 250EXking

250ex right on

Posted by: 4TraxRider

definately have to say the 400ex or the 300ex. Ic an do more thicks on my brothers 300ex though, don't really know why, but I can just get it up easier.

Posted by: 4TraxRider

I definately have to say the 400ex or the 300ex. I can do more trcks on my brothers 300ex though, don't really know why, but I can just get it up easier.

Posted by: Rip_Tear

any EX!

The Z and KFX 400 are pretty easy to wheelie too, but I haven't ridden a wheelie on one of them...

Posted by: EXracer8604

400ex for sure

Posted by: Juggalo

the 400EX is the easiest quad to balance that i have ever rode, and i have rode em all.

Posted by: trueblue450

dont even go with a 2 stroke are you crazy??

Posted by: EXracer8604

quote:
Originally posted by 300EX_Man
dont even go with a 2 stroke are you crazy??

I can ride a wheelie 1st thru 6th on my shee, i busted my *** at first, but i have it down now, its hard to find a good balacing point on it though.

Posted by: EXracer8604

ouch

Posted by: user101

1.400ex
2.300ex
3.250ex

in that order, have ridden them all. the 250 is easy but it takes finess to wheelie for a long time. it just doesnt have the power.

Posted by: QuadMX18

i think you would like a 400ex with a 14tooth sprocket a lot.

Posted by: Flyin#3-1/2

1984 Suzuki LT 185.....the wheelie king of them all

i just have to rejet it and it will be back to it's normal beastiness...lmao, seriously though, second gear you can wheelie like nothing and keep it going for as long as you want

and banshee's do suck for finding a balance point....

but i'd say either an LT185 or 400ex...haven't ridden a 300ex, but i've ridden a 250ex and there's no power at all in those things....more power in my 185....

Posted by: mx400

i would say a blaster. reall cheap and they are easy to wheelie. i can wheelie an blaster i have ever ridden(thats quite a few). my 400ex is almost as easy as a blaster and a 300ex is probably tied with a blaster.

Posted by: ZSK

Out of the quads (and some 3 wheeelers) I've ridden, this is my top 5

1. 300ex
2. Honda 350x
3. Honda 200x
4. Blaster
5. 400ex

I know some of you will say "WTF how come the 400 is at the bottom?!" well I mostly ride on gravel roads the 400 actually has too much power, it just spins the tires and the front rarely comes up. But when it does...ride em all day long. But you gotta love three wheels for wheelies

Posted by: Fast250EX

Right on with the 250EX!

Posted by: Fast250EX

...or maybe I just have skills.

Posted by: siberthugd

Keep the opinions coming guys, they're much appreciated. And fast250ex... I can ride a 2rd gear wheelie BACKWARDS on a 250ex. I can do em standing on the pegs backwards going about 20 MPH and yes, I have fallen and it sux. Try that, LOL... JK... But nice highchair wheelie though.

Posted by: toby400ex

atc 110's rule at wheelies. they float too

Posted by: JLanphear

We rock the 400's....The 250 and 300ex might be as good or better wheelie quads, the 400 is overall the best (wheelies, power, MX, Jumping).

Just my thoughts.

-Josh

Posted by: Fast250EX

Haha, I have tried the backwards wheelie annd that takes a lot of coordination. I got confused and was used to using my right hand for throttle and instead of hitting the throttle, I hit the starter button, lol.

Posted by: JLanphear

quote:
Originally posted by Fast250EX
Haha, I have tried the backwards wheelie annd that takes a lot of coordination. I got confused and was used to using my right hand for throttle and instead of hitting the throttle, I hit the starter button, lol.

Yeah, I hear ya....when I was learning them I was in a pretty small area (on a bridge...lol), so when I would do one and go to turn around I'd turn in the wrong direction.

Switchback stoppies are confusing too...I'm always grabbing the brake before the clutch.

-Josh

http://69.39.84.21/Josh/0702/cvbz0702024.jpg

Posted by: Badbowtie34

The 300 is the best just for wheelies. Its easier to balance than the 400. The 400 is just easier to keep up if u cant balance

Posted by: siberthugd

Ok, let me put it this way... If you were getting a bike JUST to wheelie and beat the sh*t out of it, what would you get. Picture stunting this bike and not caring about looks, overall speed, or handling. Just function or wheelies. What I get will end up with an ugly 12 O'clock wheelie bar, and thats about it (why pay for extra crap just to thrash em??). I am going to also ask this question, and anyone who really knows answer. How are the Blaster and LT250/LT230 for wheelies?? LOL... I am curious about these cuz the more I look, the cheaper I find em. Would I love to have a 400EX?? Of course, but not just to beat on. It's too good of a bike to just beat on, unless you got that kinda money to throw around and I don't. So, for the money (about $2000 or less), whats the best bike. Like I said before, reliabilty and maint. aren't a factor. I just want a bike to throw around for the time being. Next year brings a brand new quad when I pay off my motorcycle loan... So until then and for $2000 or less, what do you recomend??

Posted by: JLanphear

Well, basically all i use my quad for at the moment is what you just described. I picked the 400ex for a lot of reasons. Gonna be really hard to find one in your price range though. In that case I'd probably go with a 300ex or a Warrior. Blasters are cool little quads, but they got the worst rap out of all mentioned for being "beginner" quads or whatever. I don't mean to insult anybody...I personally like Blasters and think they are the best bang for the buck quad out there.

Anyway, just my opinion

By the way...what crew you gonna be riding with? Feel free to hit me on on AIM... JoshCVBz or on MSN Messanger, machlanphear@hotmail.com .

Lata

-Josh

Posted by: flyin#5

im saying blaster.... small, light, cheap, easy to wheelie, big back grab bar so when you go over its not a big deal

Posted by: Fast250EX

If you are just gonna wheelie and thrash on something, get a Honda 3 wheeler. They are just incredibly fun and very easy to wheelie on. Even the small 125's wheelie at the wick of the throttle. Some don't even have suspension and are VERY cheap. You get get a nice 3-wheeler for around 1000 bucks. My first ATV was a Honda ATC125M and I wish I still had that to fart around on.

If wheelying and thrashing is your goal, a 3 wheeler is the best choice. It wheelies easy like a dirtbike but is is stavle during wheelies like a quad.

Posted by: Honda4trax250x

i saw a top 10 once and i the top three were

1)400ex
2)Raptor
3)300ex/250x

Posted by: DEAL

400ex.
The 300ex has too short of gears and revs out really quick.

Posted by: jwisniew

quote:
If you are just gonna wheelie and thrash on something, get a Honda 3 wheeler. They are just incredibly fun and very easy to wheelie on. Even the small 125's wheelie at the wick of the throttle. Some don't even have suspension and are VERY cheap. You get get a nice 3-wheeler for around 1000 bucks. My first ATV was a Honda ATC125M and I wish I still had that to fart around on.

yea i started on a atc125m too. ive still got it and its alotta fun to mess around wit after a hard day of "serious riding". You can pretty much wheelie them with your own strength

Posted by: Nausty

quote:
Originally posted by Honda4trax250x
i saw a top 10 once and i the top three were

1)400ex
2)Raptor
3)300ex/250x

how could the raptor get 2nd? I dunno if it was just the one I was riding but when I was riding wheelies and would have em' real steep the thing just wanted to die. Honestly I think 4 strokes are the way to go for wheelies and I gotta go with jlanphear with the warrior or 300ex/250x.

Posted by: ny300exrider

i think my 300ex is pretty good for wheelies.its great for slower ones too

Posted by: Fast250EX

quote:
Originally posted by jwisniew
yea i started on a atc125m too. ive still got it and its alotta fun to mess around wit after a hard day of "serious riding". You can pretty much wheelie them with your own strength

Yeah, I loved that thing. It was always there just to mess with and have a ball on. I wouldn't want it as my main ATV or anything but it is fun, lets you get back to the roots of ATVing and focus on fun rather than speed. Mine was an '83 I believe

My uncle actually has it in his barn so I went and checked the condition. The tires are flat and it was smaller than I remembered. I started on that thing when I was 4 years old, lol. It has that huge rear grab bar on it. Man I wish it was still running. It would need a lot of restoring. I couldn't figure out how to start it at first. I didn't see anything but I finally found a frayed pullstart cord. I may take that as a project one of these to restore it.

Anyway, I have been rambling on too much.

I still say Honda 3 wheelers are the best to wheelie with. Really, any Honda sport quad (as long as its 4 stroke, 2 strokes are too unpredictable) wheelies great. I have never rode a Warrior so I can't vouch for that but I would still go with a Honda, you don't wanna thrash a Yamaha unless you want it thrashing back... to your wallet.

Posted by: jwisniew

ya mines an 84 and in great condition if anyone wants to buy it

Posted by: darkevil

I think 400ex is realy good instead of lt250r, the suz need some skills to be keep a long time. I have one and I do some big wheelie but its very hard compare to the 400ex.. But my Suz Smoke it up.. lol joke I think you have to go on 4stroke to have a realy good wheelie quad 'cause they have a lot of tork and traction

Posted by: Ryan

If you plan on riding strictly wheelies, which is kinda odd to me

, the 400ex is great for wheeling. I've had some seat time on a few machines and either the 400ex or ltz/kfx400 are the easiest. The ltz/kfx400's pop up easier but are harder to balance out then a 400ex. The power on a 400ex is much smoother.

You can buy used 400ex's very cheap these days.....

Good luck.

Posted by: Sporttrax400ex

I had a z400 and it was the best whellie bike ever i thought i loved it for whellies it is the easiest by far and it has a good balancing point . if you ask me the z400 tops them all for whellies.

1.z400
2.400ex
3.Predator500
4.300ex/250x

Posted by: hessianmx111

i can keep a wheelie on my trx300 until i get tired of it. i tried to wheelie my friends kfx but ended up on my arse too many times.

Posted by: speedy250

well i dunno bout u other guys but i set a personal record on my 250ex and rode a sit-down wheelie for 1 1/4 th of a mile. not only that, i had a wheelie contest with a 300ex and 400ex and beat the 400ex by about 50-60ft and the 300ex by about 40ft, but thats only because it was a 300ft open field and I ran outta room(if i didnt stop I wouldve hit a 5ft tall ditch)and I did that when my baby was bone stock

2002 250ex yellow #4
AC bumper
K&N dyno filter and dyno jets
Outerwears airbox lid and shockwears
AC grab bar
turf tamers rear on douglas .125 rims
maxxis front pros on douglas .125 rims
AC nerfs
Renthal bars and grips
Mikuni carb
Powroll 20cc bore kit
Pro circuit T-4 slip on pipe on the way
runs on klotz octane booster fuel mixed w/ alchol
NOS canister (under the seat)

and this little baby will run around 70-75 mph when that little button that says GO BABY GO is pressed

Posted by: jwisniew

you have nos on ur 250?!!

Posted by: J-06

Do you have a pic of this set up and your quad?

Posted by: Fast250EX

You really have nitrous oxide on that sumbich? That is awesome! You better not be chittin' me! Awesome man, awesome.

Got pics?

Posted by: Z-Mon

How much money u got into it?? u'd have been better buying a stock 400ex or somethin that could beat ure 250.

Posted by: MojaveKing

well lets see that bad boy

Posted by: speedy250

ya i got NOS, but i had to put it under the seat(that sux cause u cant c it too great) when i can figure out how to put a pic on here i will. but the pic i got right now doesnt have the wheels, nerfs, or renthal bars.ill take a pic of my NOS system and put it out here, but someones gonna have to tell me how.(my NOS button is wired up to the handle bars, it used to say GO BABY GO but the letters wore out so u cant c it at all) oh ya and i dunno how much i put in it but i know it was at least 1grand

Posted by: Fast250EX

Ok, do you have the picture uploaded onto the computer yet? If you do, when Ben gets all this picture stuff lined out, you will be able to go down in the area you would write up a post and find that image, and open on here so everyone can see it.

Or you could upload it to a webhost and do a bit of copying and pasting but just wait for Ben to fix everything, it is easier using the forums to upload pics.

Posted by: hessianmx111

quote:
Originally posted by speedy250
NOS canister (under the seat)
and this little baby will run around 70-75 mph when that little button that says GO BABY GO is pressed

lmao ill believe it when i see it.

Posted by: slates74

Im really a fan of the LTZ/KFX's for wheelies, they definitley have a lighter feeling front end then an EX and also there trannies have spot on gearing for riding nice long ones, The 400ex is an excellent choice for wheelieing too though i used to have one with some nice 18" razr mx's that i could wheelie like there was no tomorrow.

Posted by: 4wheelboy

nos(ricer style) on a 250ex any one sle smell bs

Posted by: hessianmx111

quote:
Originally posted by 4wheelboy
nos(ricer style) on a 250ex any one sle smell bs

*raises hand excitedly* i do, me over here, i smell it.

Posted by: J-06

Where did you find space for this canister. It would be subjected to quite some heat if you put it down low?

Posted by: Fast250EX

If it is a smaller canister, I believe he may have put it where the toolbox used to be under the seat.

Posted by: Z-Mon

All i know is 2 strokes suck for wheelies, they are sooo touchy when u are at the balance point, but my blaster is easier than hell to get up.

Posted by: 400eXrIdA11

my personal oppinion is the honda sportrax 90 lol b/c when u flip it dont hurt as bad lol i saw this forum and thought about the last few days thats ll i been doin is ridin 2 wheels and wheelies on a sportrax 90 and a lil 50 honda dirtbike

Posted by: cabex

I really think that my z400 is extremly easy to wheely. i can ride them forever!.

Posted by: wheeltrax

my friend can wheelie on his z for at least a quarter mile if not longer. Its awesome to see him go in 3rd or 4th gear on a wheelie

Posted by: Twitch

Heres a top 10 list of the best quads to wheelie according to Dirtwheels...
http://www.dirtwheelsmag.com/detail.asp?id=63

Posted by: 2000ex

The best thing for what you are looking for is a 350x trike. Great machines, although if you are going to trash it maybe not. They have 400ex power with a much lighter front end

Posted by: siberthugd

thanks twitch, that was a cool reference. Now if only I could sell my truck I could buy one, hehe...

Posted by: Parody

i would go with the 400ex i have ridden 300s and the 400 seems to be easier for me..
i just got the bike this year and it easy to learn to do them too

id go with a 400ex

Posted by: jwisniew

400s do have more power

Posted by: honda400exrider

Id say that if you were to but it to get a 400

theyre probaly almost as cheap as the 300s and you can get nice ones all modded out for dirt cheap

PLus so easy to wheely. On a flat surface I can go in either 1-3 gear almost indefinitely, or 1-5 shift no problem, lol doesnt take much talent.

Posted by: exrider505

400ex all the way.

Posted by: sparks400

imo 400ex there balence point is not str8 up like others its like pushed foward i like it

Posted by: speedy250

hey hessian111(u too 4wheelboy) as far as im concerned u can suck on that bull u smell, its a little canister bout 2x size of a coke can, costs in the upper$500s and i bought it from Holley. It was a ***** to put on too. It cost bout $50 to refill it.and i dont give a rats *** if u belive me or not, it has to race in the 300-350 fourstroke class, which in-case u couldnt tell is 50-100cc more than where my 250 should be racin. id prove it if my camera worked the way its suppost to.

2002 250ex yella (blown up caus NOS melted piston)
to many mods to list

Posted by: 400woodsrider

400ex all the way I can wheellie mine for miles it just seems to fall into the balancing point all by its self

Posted by: Sick0

I don't know why but I think the yfz is a lot better for wheeling. compared to a banshee , raptor anda 400ex. i itred to learn them on.

Posted by: ReconRider25

best wheelie bike? hmm......id have to say my recon!

Posted by: bone705

i have had a blaster and a 300. i think the 300 is a much eaiser wheelier.

Posted by: 250exlogan

250ex all the way, i can ride wheelies forever on the ol' 250

Posted by: EXrider03

Look man, its like this. Find you a good deal on somthing. BUY IT! Some of you may be right about a quad being able to whellie better than another. But whatever you get, once you get the hang of it you can ride a whellie as far as you want! My neighbor has a foreman ES and he can ride one as good as I can on my 400ex. I can promise no matter what you get, you will find a way to do a whellie, and yes, it will feel like the bike can whellie awesome but its actually the rider!!