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Cannondale Speed Vs Cannible Vs Raptor
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Posted by: moto x rider 92
In a race who would win and why?
Posted by: freakystone
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Originally posted by moto x rider 92
In a race who would win and why?
What kind of race? Drag race? The Speed.
Track race? Best rider.
Equal riders? The Speed.
Posted by: raptor_02
SPEED IN EVERYTHING BUT CANNIBAL IS BEST BUY IMO
Posted by: freakystone
Why?
Posted by: xXx*PREDATOR*xXx
Insert the Predator in this battle!
Posted by: freakystone
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Originally posted by xXx*PREDATOR*xXx
Insert the Predator in this battle!
Insert KFX700 in this battle!
Posted by: freakystone
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Originally posted by freakystone
Insert KFX700 in this battle!
Insert TRX250R in this battle!
Posted by: freakystone
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Originally posted by freakystone
Insert TRX250R in this battle!
Insert LT500 in this battle!
Posted by: freakystone
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Originally posted by freakystone
Insert LT500 in this battle!
Insert GasGas in this battle!
Posted by: freakystone
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Originally posted by freakystone
Insert GasGas in this battle!
Insert Banshee in this battle!
Posted by: freakystone
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Originally posted by freakystone
Insert Banshee in this battle!
Insert LT250R in this battle!
Posted by: freakystone
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Originally posted by freakystone
Insert LT250R in this battle!
Oh wait... The question was Speed vs. Cannibal vs. Raptor...
Posted by: raptor_02
Predator would get smoked in this battle. Probaly same for KFX700. Banshee would defenitely get smoked if it was stock. But the funny thing is you mention all OPEN class quads against the little 432cc cannondale. That's very FUNNY!!!!!!!
Posted by: raptor_02
oh a 250R and a LT250R would get smoked to. Especially a LT250R, that thing couldn't even take my EX 
Posted by: Glow Plug
the speed would take it but then again it would be all up to the riders as well
Posted by: xXx*PREDATOR*xXx
truthfully in a drag a predator would smoke a craptor
Posted by: heavy_d
whats top speed on the gas gas the 2 stroke and the 4 stroke?
Posted by: Chanman420q
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Originally posted by raptor_02
oh a 250R and a LT250R would get smoked to. Especially a LT250R, that thing couldn't even take my EX
come race my LT250R... i got an 86 NON powervalve engine, this thing is crazy fast, beats piped DS650s and tags RIGHT a long with raptors with pipes
Posted by: heavy_d
LT250R does like 70-75mph stock which would easily get a 400ex or 250r
Posted by: raptor_02
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Originally posted by heavy_d
LT250R does like 70-75mph stock which would easily get a 400ex or 250r
HAHAHAHAHAHAH LMFAO. Okay buddie. You keep thinking that and i'll keep laughing. 
Posted by: raptor_02
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Originally posted by Chanman420q
come race my LT250R... i got an 86 NON powervalve engine, this thing is crazy fast, beats piped DS650s and tags RIGHT a long with raptors with pipes
well i wasn't talkin about a modded one. I'd race you after I get my 416kit and cam. You should get me but I just don't think u would. 
Posted by: freakystone
I saw where this was going last night but I did feel like arguing. But stock for stock, a powervalved LT250R will beat a TRX250R in a drag. The stock 400EX has no chance. Sorry.
I get such a kick out of people that just quads by drag race results. Who cares. It means very little. Put a good rider on a track with a stock 400EX and some novice-weekend-wanna-be-racers on some Dales and the good riders wins 9 out of 10 times.
Posted by: heavy_d
beating somebody in a straight line is just 1/3 of the war the other 2/3 is track and trail
Posted by: raptor_02
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Originally posted by freakystone
I saw where this was going last night but I did feel like arguing. But stock for stock, a powervalved LT250R will beat a TRX250R in a drag. The stock 400EX has no chance. Sorry.
I get such a kick out of people that just quads by drag race results. Who cares. It means very little. Put a good rider on a track with a stock 400EX and some novice-weekend-wanna-be-racers on some Dales and the good riders wins 9 out of 10 times.
he said NON powervalved LT250R bud. Read the post close. If my EX has no chance, neither does your Z! LT's are no comparison to a 250R. The HONDA will smoke it everytime!
Posted by: heavy_d
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Originally posted by raptor_02
he said NON powervalved LT250R bud. Read the post close. If my EX has no chance, neither does your Z! LT's are no comparison to a 250R. The HONDA will smoke it everytime!
LT's have better top speed, i don't know about the holeshot though
Posted by: JakeZ400
I have a lt250 non power valve engine and i smoke 250r's all the time up compettition hill. Now i dont know about piped ds's they are fast! Also you sound stupid when you say that a 250r will smoke a lt250 even if it did, it would be like a ex vs. a Z, the Z barely wins. but a 250 cant kill anouther 250.
Posted by: Chanman420q
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Originally posted by raptor_02
HAHAHAHAHAHAH LMFAO. Okay buddie. You keep thinking that and i'll keep laughing.
look, i know for a fact that my LT nuts. But its gunna be useless sayin whos faster or what not. Cuz my dad can beat ur dad up.
And as far as Piped DS's ( i think u ment Raptor ) yes because i ride with someone who has it. And if u ment raptor the guy i bought it from had an E-series slip on and he said the LT will ride next to it if not slowly pull forward...
Posted by: raptor_02
i have only been around 1 LT250 in my life and it wasn't that fast. A LT may be able to outrun a 250R , i don't know. I haven't owned either. But if I were a betting man I would lay down the cash on the HONDA. If it were a 400ex vs a Z400 of course the Z will win.
Posted by: Chanman420q
yes thats a drag... but between the LT vs R in a drag the LT would win. But on the track stock for stock... R is gunna win, just like I THINK the EX would beat the Z on the track
Posted by: freakystone
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Originally posted by Chanman420q
yes thats a drag... but between the LT vs R in a drag the LT would win. But on the track stock for stock... R is gunna win, just like I THINK the EX would beat the Z on the track
You be smokin' dope pal... I have owned and EX and a Z. The Z takes the EX on the track with equal rider... Not by much but she takes her.
As for the LT beating the R in a drag. Sorry but that is true too. Now on the track though, the R dominates the LT.
Stop thinking and wishing and start knowing...
Posted by: Chanman420q
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Originally posted by freakystone
You be smokin' dope pal... I have owned and EX and a Z. The Z takes the EX on the track with equal rider... Not by much but she takes her.
As for the LT beating the R in a drag. Sorry but that is true too. Now on the track though, the R dominates the LT.
Stop thinking and wishing and start knowing...
omfg can u read? because u obviosly didnt read my post. i said I THINK.. THATS PERSONAL OPIONION. and u really missed the part where i said the R WILL WIN. go rethink ur post
Posted by: danyeo
How much of an edge does the Speed have on the Cannibal, riders being =.
Posted by: JabberJR
No Contest the speed would take.. Although you can buy the other and up grade it buy purchasing a 25$ chip... So It's a way better investment!
Posted by: aproy
and it costs more than 25 bucks.
Posted by: JabberJR
Hahaa, Don't have to bust my chops
I didn't mean exactly $25. I jsut ment the chip is low priced. I will make sure I am more specific with what I post..
Posted by: aproy
haha, just making sure we are all on the same page. . .

Posted by: JabberJR
Yeah no problem
Anyways... Jabberjaw done any posts recently?
Posted by: NYLT250
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Originally posted by raptor_02
oh a 250R and a LT250R would get smoked to. Especially a LT250R, that thing couldn't even take my EX
bull**** ill smoke your 400ex on my lt 250.... keep dreaming you tree swinger
Posted by: raptor_02
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Originally posted by NYLT250
bull**** ill smoke your 400ex on my lt 250.... keep dreaming you tree swinger
easy now
well i plan on racing NATIONALS so there is your chance. A LT250 may smoke my 400ex, but it has a snowballs chance in he!! of beating a DALE. That's the bottom line cause raptor_02 said so!!!!!!!!!! 
Posted by: NYLT250
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Originally posted by raptor_02
easy now
well i plan on racing NATIONALS so there is your chance. A LT250 may smoke my 400ex, but it has a snowballs chance in he!! of beating a DALE. That's the bottom line cause raptor_02 said so!!!!!!!!!!
well i have a couple ?'s.... why is ur name raptor_02 when you have a 400ex and mostly talk about 400's and dales? u dont say nuttin bout ur raptor either cuz u kno my baby will hang with that tooo.. provided i use sum cam 2...
Posted by: 4punksdad
I own a cannondale, a lt250R, and I just sold my 400ex. I have a 250R in my garage at my disposal and I have ridden a 440ex or 2 in my time. here is what I think....................and know. The lt250r will smoke the 400ex..............the trx250r is way quicker than the lt, and the cannibal will smoke all of them. the 440ex is a waste of money in my opinion............I didn't like the power delivery.
Posted by: NYLT250
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Originally posted by 4punksdad
I own a cannondale, a lt250R, and I just sold my 400ex. I have a 250R in my garage at my disposal and I have ridden a 440ex or 2 in my time. here is what I think....................and know. The lt250r will smoke the 400ex..............the trx250r is way quicker than the lt, and the cannibal will smoke all of them. the 440ex is a waste of money in my opinion............I didn't like the power delivery.
if u have looked at any posts ud know that a LT has the R in top speed which means the lt will murder a 400ex and a trx250r but the dale is defently quicker... at least i think never seen one
Posted by: ESR250R
this is my opinion on STOCK quads
drag racing
kawi 250r
lt500r
raptor
banshee
lt250r
trx250r
z400
400ex
i've have yet to see a cannondale in a drag racing situation. unless u call a holeshot drag racing. in which yes the $12,000 moto got the holeshot on a bunch of stock quads.
Posted by: NYLT250
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Originally posted by ESR250R
i've have yet to see a cannondale in a drag racing situation. unless u call a holeshot drag racing. in which yes the $12,000 moto got the holeshot on a bunch of stock quads.
well if u pay 12,000$ that thing better get the wholeshot.. if i was payin 13 g's the thing better fly and come with a waitress.. and a fine one at that
Posted by: raptor_02
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Originally posted by NYLT250
well i have a couple ?'s.... why is ur name raptor_02 when you have a 400ex and mostly talk about 400's and dales? u dont say nuttin bout ur raptor either cuz u kno my baby will hang with that tooo.. provided i use sum cam 2...
i used to have a raptor and got smart and got me a 400ex. The reason I talk about 400ex's and DALES is because they are by far the BEST quads on the MARKET!!!!!!!! Well the Z400 is good too. Enough of the BS about how fast your slow LT is. I don't think it could take my EX but who cares, we will never find out.
4PUNKS, how come you don't like the power delivery of a 440ex???? Too much power for ya?????? 
Posted by: 4punksdad
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Originally posted by raptor_02
i used to have a raptor and got smart and got me a 400ex. The reason I talk about 400ex's and DALES is because they are by far the BEST quads on the MARKET!!!!!!!! Well the Z400 is good too. Enough of the BS about how fast your slow LT is. I don't think it could take my EX but who cares, we will never find out.
4PUNKS, how come you don't like the power delivery of a 440ex???? Too much power for ya??????
no...........because its a pig.
Posted by: ESR250R
i by far dont think a 440ex is a pig it just isnt high horsepower . i will guarentee that a 440ex has ALOT better pulling power than any cannondale. every cannondale ive every seen, had to keep the rpms way up. i asked them y they did that and they told me that cannondales are easy to stall out because of a lack or torque (this came out of 2 peoples mouths that both own c-dale motos). i think cannondale makes a good quad but u guys that make them out to be something amazing are sadly mistaken. i know i will get flamed for saying this but its my opinion. i was once interested in getting a cdale but the cdale dealer was being a total *** to me trying to say how bad the dales are. he ended up totally turning me away from them and i decided to build my r instead. i am glad i decided to go with the built R now. i cant wait to get down to attica to so just how fast those cannondales really are
Posted by: 4punksdad
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Originally posted by ESR250R
i by far dont think a 440ex is a pig it just isnt high horsepower . i will guarentee that a 440ex has ALOT better pulling power than any cannondale. every cannondale ive every seen, had to keep the rpms way up. i asked them y they did that and they told me that cannondales are easy to stall out because of a lack or torque (this came out of 2 peoples mouths that both own c-dale motos). i think cannondale makes a good quad but u guys that make them out to be something amazing are sadly mistaken. i know i will get flamed for saying this but its my opinion. i was once interested in getting a cdale but the cdale dealer was being a total *** to me trying to say how bad the dales are. he ended up totally turning me away from them and i decided to build my r instead. i am glad i decided to go with the built R now. i cant wait to get down to attica to so just how fast those cannondales really are
sounds to me like you are just repeating what you have heard from others. I am stating my opinion based on my own personal experiences..............I am sure my opinion differes from yours. I can tell you one thing for sure. The 440ex is NOT quicker or faster than a stock cannondale cannibal.
Posted by: raptor_02
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Originally posted by 4punksdad
sounds to me like you are just repeating what you have heard from others. I am stating my opinion based on my own personal experiences..............I am sure my opinion differes from yours. I can tell you one thing for sure. The 440ex is NOT quicker or faster than a stock cannondale cannibal.
a 440ex national kit and a cannibal would be very very close. The cannibal would probaly smoke it in top end but as far as 0-50mph i'd say it would go to whoever got off the line better. If the 440ex got the jump on the dale I don't think the Dale could come back. Same way if the cannibal got the jump. But the simple remap of the fuel injection could make a cannibal smoke a 440ex. No doubt a cannondale is a better buy imo if your strictly racing because it would cost over 2000 in a EX motor to put it on par with a stock cannibal.
What kind of 440ex's have you rode 4punks??? Were they national kits or just simple piston and cam setups???
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