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Hot Cams No Start
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Posted by: fordguy95

so i put in my new hot cams today ... now it wont start

i shimd it , it has spark , fuel and compression

tripl checked the timing chain

got any ideas

Posted by: airmobile101

Im thinking it has to be your timing if shimmed properly. You did set the timing at TDC before tearing into it correct?

Posted by: fordguy95

yep i sure did

i even put the old cams back in to see if there was somting else

and it ran fine so i have no clue what it could be

Posted by: airmobile101

quote:
Originally posted by fordguy95
yep i sure did

i even put the old cams back in to see if there was somting else

and it ran fine so i have no clue what it could be

Ok, then if you put the old cams back in and it ran fine, then that means its not shimmed properly. Your not gonna use the stock spec. shim height with Hotcams.

Posted by: fordguy95

I did re shim it., 280's on the ex and 260's on the In. I have a feeling it might be 180 degrees out.

Posted by: fordguy95

nope not 180 deg out

Posted by: airmobile101

I'm not positive, but according to your sig. Its stage 2 cams???? I just took mine out and I had 300-305 on the ex. and 285 on the intake,but that was with stage one cams. Man, you got me stumped. Sure they are for a z400???

Posted by: fordguy95

quote:
Originally posted by airmobile101
I'm not positive, but according to your sig. Its stage 2 cams???? I just took mine out and I had 300-305 on the ex. and 285 on the intake,but that was with stage one cams. Man, you got me stumped. Sure they are for a z400???

i was told that if u just do the one its a stg 1 and that if u do both thats called a stg2

im getting to the point were im just gunna send it in

which just piss's me off, i hate bein beat, but i feel like im just wasting my time

Posted by: cataway

quote:
Originally posted by fordguy95
i was told that if u just do the one its a stg 1 and that if u do both thats called a stg2

im getting to the point were im just gunna send it in

which just piss's me off, i hate bein beat, but i feel like im just wasting my time

no, sorry thats not right, stg 2 is a mixing of the old style hot cam

with the new , normally its old style intake and new style exhaust

when you put the new ones in did the cam lobes look to be in the same poshion after the install , at TDC ?

and you may all so have to degree the new cams ....yeah they are saposed to be set , but ya really dont know till you prove it

Posted by: fordguy95

there both the old style ... no decompresion

they look like there in about the same place

how do u deegree the cams

Posted by: cataway

quote:
Originally posted by fordguy95
there both the old style ... no decompresion

they look like there in about the same place

how do u deegree the cams

about the same ! no it has to be the same.

if you have both old style cams then you stg 1 old style.

to degree the cams you will need one of these http://www.mxpreview.com/ProductView.aspx?ID=233

Posted by: fordguy95

well they look the same but i didnt measure them