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2001 Scrambler 90 Build-Up
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Posted by: dwhst9

This thread will document the build-up of our 2001 Scrambler 90.

A link to all the pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhintemeyer/

Here's some pics of the frame after cutting off the stock floorboard mounts:

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Posted by: dwhst9

My new DC Motorsports +3 chromoly a-arms showed up today. All I can say is WOW. These are too nice to get dirty

Thanks Dave!

Posted by: jjd223

Looks great , You wont be dissapointed with your new D.C. Motorsports A-Arms.

Does the 400 EX rear hub fit the splines of the Polaris axle? and what is the bolt pattern of the 400 EX?

Thanks

Joe

Posted by: dwhst9

quote:
Originally posted by jjd223
Looks great , You wont be dissapointed with your new D.C. Motorsports A-Arms.

Does the 400 EX rear hub fit the splines of the Polaris axle? and what is the bolt pattern of the 400 EX?

Thanks

Joe

Yes the 400ex hubs fit (24 spline). Same bolt pattern as scrambler hubs.

Posted by: jjd223

By the looks of it you gained about an inch on each side,

nice.

Posted by: markvette

also if you want more width rocky mountain has hubs that fit the 400ex and they are 1 3/4" wider than stock hubs. if the 400 hubs give you an inch on each side then their hubs would give you 2 3/4" each side. i think they are only about $75 for the pair.

Mark

Posted by: jjd223

Thanks Mark,

cheaper and most likely lighter than wheel spacers

Joe

Posted by: jjd223

Thanks Mark,

cheaper and most likely lighter than wheel spacers

Is the scrambler wheel a 4/110 bolt pattern?

Joe

Posted by: markvette

yes it is a 4 on 110 here is a link to the hubs.

hubs

Posted by: jjd223

Thanks Mark

i need to order a set

Posted by: dwhst9

I got the nerf bars welded on today. The bars are installed at +2* up relative to the frame.

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Posted by: dwhst9

Frame gussets installed:

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Posted by: dwhst9

Rear shock mount support brace:

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Posted by: 300maniac

Dd you make those gussets,or did you buy some type of universal 90 degree gussets? looks great!!

Posted by: etondaddy

Looks great so far....... I'll fix yeah up with some powdercoat ...... let me know. DC's stuff sure is nice ain't it.

Mike Kozura

Posted by: dwhst9

quote:
Originally posted by 300maniac
Dd you make those gussets,or did you buy some type of universal 90 degree gussets? looks great!!

You're looking at the .125" gusset kit from Competition Engineering. I used a lot of these gussets on my drag car rollcage. Each package comes with 25 gusset. Available from Summit Racing for $13.95 + shipping.

http://store.summitracing.com/partd...15&autoview=sku

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Posted by: etondaddy

SOLD I'm ordering those gussets Just to have around

Mike Kozura

Posted by: bulldogfallon

You can find them cheaper....

Email me I'll send them to you for .25 each

Half the price

It would make that chassis classy?

Posted by: etondaddy

That's my luck Gary..... a day late and a dollar short..... I have them coming w/shipping they come out to .95 each. I better start saving those ten dollar bills for Indy next year and quit wasting them. I know a few girls that are working there way through collage and can use the money.

Mike Kozura

Posted by: dwhst9

I dropped off my frame and a box of parts at Mike's place tonight for powder coating.

Mike must not want anyone to find his house. 'cause every street sign was missing around there!

Posted by: BradLoomis

quote:
Originally posted by dwhst9

Mike must not want anyone to find his house. 'cause every street sign was missing around there!

Why do you think all of Mike's "custom skid plates" say Payton Place and South Red Tree Drive.

Posted by: etondaddy

quote:
Originally posted by BradLoomis
Why do you think all of Mike's "custom skid plates" say Payton Place and South Red Tree Drive.

There all on some little hoodlems bedroom wall............ they'll steal it even if it's bolted down.

Mike Kozura

Posted by: BradLoomis

quote:
Originally posted by etondaddy
There all on some little hoodlems bedroom wall............ they'll steal it even if it's bolted down.

Mike Kozura

I will agree with the "hoodlum" part.... but I would have never called you little

Your not trying to say that Kyle would do that would you

Posted by: etondaddy

Alright that's enough.......... now this reminds me of the time the cops showed up at my house when I took the do not enter sign........ wow I guess I was a little hoodlem.....

How could I forget the feal of that black leather belt on my little a**.

Mike Kozura

Posted by: dwhst9

quote:
How could I forget the feal of that black leather belt on my little a**.

Mike Kozura [/B]

What you do in your bedroom is your own business

Posted by: etondaddy

quote:
Originally posted by dwhst9
What you do in your bedroom is your own business

Good one............ this thread is way off line now

Mike Kozura

Posted by: dwhst9

quote:
Originally posted by etondaddy
Good one............ this thread is way off line now

Mike Kozura

Yes, I agree. Way to go Brad

I'm just playing the waiting game now. I need a few parts from Brad and the powercoating to be done.

You guys are gonna have absolutely FANTASTIC racing weather this weekend. I'm hoping to be at the races sometime this weekend and get to meet some of you guys!

Posted by: dwhst9

Quick update,

Talked to Mike and it looks like he'll get my stuff stripped and coated sometime next week.

Mike, good luck with the new quad this weekend.

Posted by: etondaddy

Well it’s Friday night about 7pm…… just got done with what I had to do and getting ready to leave for High Point. From what I hearing Kyle had one hard day. The Honda wasn’t running right and his first time on a real track………… Ooooooooo boy he staled it a bunch. Thanks to Charlie McVay , Kevin Smitley, and Gerry Hixon. They found the new cdi bad and got it to run better. So last I heard he only staled it twice in the second practice and he’s real happy with that…….. And that he was at Dave Carter’s trailer getting his shifter shortened so his foot fits under it better. Poor kid he’s at a National with a direct drive shifter quad and has never raced it before………. Kids got bigger balls than I do. I’m very proud of my little buddy and would like to thank all that helped today. Rumor has it there’s 19 in his class tomorrow…………Oooooooooo boy. He’ll get the hang of it.

Mike Kozura

Posted by: jjd223

Mike,
Dont worry, Kyle will do just fine. and he is in very good hands if Dave is working on his bike.

Joe

Posted by: dwhst9

Looks like the parts are getting sandblasted tomorrow (Friday) and powder coated soon after.

Posted by: etondaddy

Well the frame's done............. hope you like it...... it's going to look wild in the sun with the chrome base coat. I planed on getting more pieces done today but............. I have no spark on the Honda and Missy just left to get a CDI to try........... it's getting late not sure if we're going to make R&D tomorrow or not....... he could sure use the seat time. I think it came out good...... I'm always hard on myself about how they come out...... it's got the normal amount of dirt in it..... lol. no down draft paint booth here pal lol.......

All yeah call the Polaris shop and get the snap ring that holds the steering stem bearing....... it went pa-twang off my snap ring pliers and I can't find it

Mike Kozura

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Posted by: ww228king

that looks great!!!! I love it!... way to go man!!

Posted by: dwhst9

Mike, man that looks AWESOME!!! Looks like you powder coated the stuff on the shelves too

It looks better than I hoped for. That candy blue is sweet!

I can't wait to get everything back here and start assembling

Posted by: 300maniac

etondaddy did you make the cabnet? it looks like a great size

Posted by: etondaddy

Thanks.........

Looks like we're going to R&D the CDI worked about 11pm last night.

Yes the oven I build was an old cabnet from a shop at a concrete plant I used to work at...... the working area is 2x3x6 and mini frames fit good..... I've had a Harley Hog frame in it. I like my barn door track idea just spray open the doors and roll it in.

Mike Kozura

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Posted by: dwhst9

I gotta say again, that candy blue looks incredible

Posted by: dwhst9

Our new wheel & tires arrived from Recreation Tire. We got Douglas blue label wheels with holeshots on the front and snowhogs for the back.

I also have everything to reassemble the swingarm, axle and rear brake assembly.

Posted by: dwhst9

I got all the parts back from etondaddy today. They turned out fantastic! A big thanks goes out to Mike for his hard work on these parts!

A link to larger pics here

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Posted by: etondaddy

I'm glad you like them....... get your tap and die set out and chase all the holes and studs..... it will make assembly much easier.....

Hey I've been in concrete for about eighteen years.....from the pics that's a pretty nice driveway......who did the finish work. ??

Mike Kozura

Posted by: dwhst9

quote:
Originally posted by etondaddy
I'm glad you like them....... get your tap and die set out and chase all the holes and studs..... it will make assembly much easier.....

Hey I've been in concrete for about eighteen years.....from the pics that's a pretty nice driveway......who did the finish work. ??

Mike Kozura

I think their name was Barone. Two or three brothers owned the concrete business. They did our foundation and block work too.

I have a set of thread chasers that I'll use. You don't wanna use taps/dies for cleaning up threads.

Posted by: etondaddy

Carmen Barone and sons.............I know them well... they're very good. There's Carmen Jr., Joe, Tony, and Michael..... I remember when old man Carmen died I went to the funeral home in East Pittsburgh or East Mckeesport I can't remember...... but it looked like a scene out of the God father..... this hunky boy walked in with a tan pair of Dockers on in a sea of black pin stripes........ all eyes were on me until Tony came over and shock my hand.....lol and all the looks stopped. I've known them guys for a long time..... good people.

If you need anything just give me a call........ there's nothing on that quad that someone on this board can't help you with.

Mike Kozura

Posted by: dwhst9

Well right now, this new DG bumper for the Scrambler 50/90 won't bolt up to the upper mounts

Posted by: BradLoomis

Tie rods went out today. Don't know whether Fed Ex or UPS... but shipping confirmed that they shipped them.

Posted by: dwhst9

Link to larger pics

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Posted by: etondaddy

Looks great already........ did you get the flywheel puller I put in the box ??

Mike Kozura

Posted by: dwhst9

quote:
Originally posted by etondaddy
Looks great already........ did you get the flywheel puller I put in the box ??

Mike Kozura

Yup, it's sitting on my welding table. I need to use the puller so I can get it sent back to you.

Posted by: etondaddy

No big deal keep it as long as you need it........ how about some new pics......lol

Mike Kozura

Posted by: dwhst9

These new a-arms cause the front tires to have too much POSITIVE camber. Even if we adjust the shocks to the softest setting, still a lot of positive camber. Dave Carter, any suggestions???

Posted by: dwhst9

quote:
Originally posted by dwhst9
These new a-arms cause the front tires to have too much POSITIVE camber. Even if we adjust the shocks to the softest setting, still a lot of positive camber. Dave Carter, any suggestions???

Anybody???

Posted by: ww228king

they may work out when you have the engine and the rider added...

Posted by: dwhst9

quote:
Originally posted by ww228king
they may work out when you have the engine and the rider added...

We put the quad down on the floor and I stood on the front of it and could'nt get rid of all the positive camber

The shocks are 10.25" eye to eye. I tried calling Dave Carter all day yesterday but just got voicemail.

Posted by: etondaddy

I'm sure Dave's at Muddy Creek National...... try him on Monday afternoon.

Mike Kozura

Posted by: qcitytile

If the a arms are for stock length shocks that could be why, because stock length is 9.75 eye to eye. We had a set of a arms that were for 10.5 shocks and we had stock length and they did the same thing.

Posted by: dwhst9

I spoke with Dave Carter this morning. I'm sending back his a-arms and he's gonna make us another set with the shock mount moved further out and we're gonna have to move the shock towers further out in order to compensate for the longer Works shocks (10.25" eye-to-eye). We think somewhere there was a mix up on the shock length for the 1st set of a-arms.

Dave said his single a-arm sales have started taking off again. He sure does build a work of art. The pictures say it all.

Thanks again Dave

Posted by: markvette

years ago i put a set pf plus 3 single a-arms on my sons eton. they were the first set built for 12" shocks. the bottom shock mount was way out there and the shocks were at a lot more angle than the stock a-arms and shocks. i ran this set up for 3 years and it worked awesome. we did not move the top mount.

Mark

Posted by: dwhst9

quote:
Originally posted by markvette
years ago i put a set pf plus 3 single a-arms on my sons eton. they were the first set built for 12" shocks. the bottom shock mount was way out there and the shocks were at a lot more angle than the stock a-arms and shocks. i ran this set up for 3 years and it worked awesome. we did not move the top mount.

Mark

Wouldn't that lower your ride height/ground clearance substantially?

Posted by: markvette

here is a pic of the front end. this is the last mini i built for my son. this front end was on a 99 eton, a xtreme and this viper.

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Posted by: markvette

the xtreme with same a-arms and shocks

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Posted by: markvette

99 eton with the same front end.

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Posted by: dwhst9

Thanks for the pics Mark

Posted by: etondaddy

DC will fix you up..............

Mike Kozura

Posted by: dwhst9

quote:
Originally posted by etondaddy
DC will fix you up..............

Mike Kozura

Yes indeed!

Posted by: markvette

yes i am sure he will. just trying to let him know we ran the shocks at more angle and had no problem with the set up. bubba has about 5 championship titles to prove that. moving the top mount will probably be better and i am sure dave knows tons more about it than i do but it worked for us.

Mark

Posted by: dwhst9

quote:
Originally posted by markvette
yes i am sure he will. just trying to let him know we ran the shocks at more angle and had no problem with the set up. bubba has about 5 championship titles to prove that. moving the top mount will probably be better and i am sure dave knows tons more about it than i do but it worked for us.

Mark

Mark, thanks for your input on this. I'm new to this mini stuff, so I'm learning as I go

At the very least, the a-arm shock mounts need to be moved out.

Posted by: dwhst9

The DC a-arms are on there way back to Dave Carter. I've got the motor installed and the Predator AC bumper tweaked and installed.

Posted by: etondaddy

Pics.............

Mike Kozura

Posted by: dericsdad

We have always ran a steeper front shock angle too, and they work very well that way. Dan.

Posted by: etondaddy

Lookin good.............. you got to love the towel......... we do that every build.....and fight over every little mark... until that first moto....lol

Mike Kozura

Posted by: dwhst9

quote:
Originally posted by etondaddy
Lookin good.............. you got to love the towel......... we do that every build.....and fight over every little mark... until that first moto....lol

Mike Kozura

Yeah, it's too pretty to get dirty

One ride on the trails and BAM, looks used

Posted by: dwhst9

Still waiting on the new a-arms. I got the rear-end all finished up.

Posted by: etondaddy

I found your steering stem bearing snap ring. If you want pm me your address & I will mail it to you.

Posted by: dwhst9

quote:
Originally posted by etondaddy
I found your steering stem bearing snap ring. If you want pm me your address & I will mail it to you.

Crap, I already ordered and installed a new one

I pretty much got everything together now other than the front suspension.

Posted by: etondaddy

10-4 .......... these are the things junk drawers in a tool box are made of...lol

How about some pics.....

Mike Kozura

Posted by: dwhst9

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Posted by: dwhst9

I talked to Dave Carter today. Good thing I called him, he needed to talk to me and didn't have my number.

He sent me a sheet of paper with measurements he needs to build the new set of a-arms. I *think* he's also making some brackets to relocate the upper shock mounts.

My kid is going crazy not having his quad to ride

Posted by: etondaddy

If Dave can get them done he should be at PVR this weekend...... I can pick them up for you.....or you guys should come to the track and check out the National.

I need to call him myself.... and remind him to bring my stock Honda parts.

Mike Kozura

Posted by: dwhst9

quote:
Originally posted by etondaddy
If Dave can get them done he should be at PVR this weekend...... I can pick them up for you.....or you guys should come to the track and check out the National.

I need to call him myself.... and remind him to bring my stock Honda parts.

Mike Kozura

He said he won't be at PVR. His motorhome is still down.

Posted by: dericsdad

What! Motorhome still not fixed??? The shop that "FIXED" it for him the first time should be buying him a new one by now!!!