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250R Cross Compatibility Chart
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Posted by: troybilt
I took my own advice and was going to start a cross-compatibility chart for the 250R and need your help. I have a project bike and its getting harder and harder to find aftermarket components for the 250R, plus with eBay sometimes can find deals on parts for other bikes but not sure if they will fit the 250R.
I've started this chart but I don't know what items can be inter-changed between bikes, or even possibly require slight modification.
Let me know if this is worth it or not. It would be very helpful for me.
Here is an example of what I'm after.
Thanks,
Sorry-
I deleted this and updated then reattached in new post to eliminate confusion
Posted by: Motofool250r
400ex a-arms will fit a 250r with some spacers
400ex axle will fit in a 250r carrier but it has different wheel hub splines if you use 400ex axle u need 400ex hubs
400ex tierods are the same as 250r tierods
450r shocks fit on 400ex and 250r but are setup wider then both stock and so are much stiffer
Posted by: Motofool250r
and i saw a thread a couple days ago that said 450r nerfs dont fit without extensive mods
Posted by: CorvetteZ06
This is a great idea!
Posted by: troybilt
Thanks for information, I'll update the spreadsheet and repost in a day or so.
..oh and I tried searching before anyone blasts me about it, and I went back about 7 pages and tried to dig up information.
Posted by: honda1988
right now i am in the process of fitting aftermarket LTR a-arms to my 250. doesn't look like it will be a problem just some custom bushings and ltr spindles and hubs i will let you know how it works. i also have 450r shocks on my 250, bolted right up just raises the ride height a little.
Posted by: atvmxr
450r swingers will work, there is thread from around september about it...
Posted by: mineralgrey01gt
might want to change that 86-89 grab bar up. The 86-87 fits only those years and 88-89 will fit 04-05 450r's
Posted by: CorvetteZ06
quote:
Originally posted by atvmxr
450r swingers will work, there is thread from around september about it...
yep, its pretty much direct bolt on! http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthr...t=450r+swingarm
also, we can always use the spindles, hubs, and brakes from a 450R. the spindles are aluminum.
Posted by: Scottt89
I had a 2004 Z400, and a 88/89 250r AC XC Grab Bar was on without any mods.
Posted by: troybilt
Thanks everyone for the information. I've updated the spreadsheet and here it is.
Also, I used 88-89 as the baseline since not everything for the 86-87 fits on the 88-89, hopefull everyone can figure that out.
let me know if I need to change/add something.
Thanks,
Deleted and reattached below...
Posted by: danhung11
I have heard that this will fit....
Can someone confirm this?
BTW. This is a great idea!
Posted by: troybilt
Yes, I confirmed.
Posted by: Motofool250r
put a 400ex thumb throttle on today, it will work with stock or larger 39mm pwk carbs and works like a charm and parts are still available for it =)
Posted by: troybilt
Anybody know what nerf bars are the closest fit? I've seen some threads that 450R are not close, what about 400EX? I've also read somewhere that Predator nerfs can be adapted fairly easy.
Posted by: noreversesucks
Just an idea.
Is there a possibility of adding measurements and/or part numbers to that spreadsheet?
I found this thread tryin to find the measurements of front 250r wheel bearings. From what I've found out the 86/87 used all 4 bearing of the same size and the 88/89 had smaller outboard bearings, (Like just about every quad).
I can add this little bit of useless info. 400EX uses the same ID front wheel bearing as a 660 Raptor! LOL But they have different spacing. IE; Raptor bearings are farther apart so the hub is effectively "thicker".
Posted by: mc_racer
450r rear master cylinder works on a 250r. Just need to change the pushrod and drill out the threads on the mounts.
Posted by: 395Rider
88-89
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/adamadam1672/HPIM3706.jpg
86-87
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/adamadam1672/HPIM3708.jpg
Difference of one inch
Posted by: mxduner
quote:
Originally posted by troybilt
Anybody know what nerf bars are the closest fit? I've seen some threads that 450R are not close, what about 400EX? I've also read somewhere that Predator nerfs can be adapted fairly easy.
i do believe my bro got some r nerfs (propegs) to fit his ex without much mods.I said without much mods because he's an idiot
and he dont own a grinder.... just a hammer
Posted by: danhung11
I had many inquiries for the rear shock mount as pictured...
It is a TRX450R PEP Shockmount that mounts to the grab bar. All hardware is included.
Here's a pic.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/...11/000_0987.jpg
Posted by: mcarlson1
Anyone know if 400 or 450r plastics will work? Im thinking about trying it but i wanted to see if anyone else has done it before so i know what to do and what not to do
Posted by: Motofool250r
ive seen 400ex plastics work dont know what it took though
Posted by: troybilt
Thanks for the info, I've updated the spreadsheet.
I can add measurements and part numbers as I received them.
Posted by: mxduner
quote:
Originally posted by Motofool250r
ive seen 400ex plastics work dont know what it took though
a couple years ago in one of the mags they had a kit to convert to the old style ex plastic, but thats all i can tell ya.wonder what it took to get the ex switched over to the 450 plastic?
Posted by: mxduner
Anyone try 450r a-arms yet? gotta think someone tried it already
Posted by: 395Rider
Here is a set of 05 450R A Arms I have up on EBay. This year will fit an 04 0r 05 450R. There is a tape measure indicating their bolting seperation.
450R A Arms
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/adamadam1672/HPIM3912.jpg
Upper A Arms
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/adamadam1672/HPIM3928.jpg
Lower A Arms
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/adamadam1672/HPIM3929.jpg
Good Luck and great idea!
Posted by: f4istunna
not a big or expensive part but the 450r shifter will work. I just got one yeterday at the honda shop.
Posted by: atvmxr
can anyone tell me if the 250r brake caliper bracket will fit on the 450r carrier, Im about to swap the swingarm to a 450 and plan to buy a 450 carrier, but want to know this first...
Posted by: ib2strokin
according to Pro Armor, the LTZ400 front bumper also fits LTR 450, so im assuming that the ltr 450 bumpers will fit 250r since the ltz 400's do! can someone confirm that?
Posted by: ib2strokin
just checked with Blingstar and the ltr 450 and the ltz 400 have different part numbers, but the part number s for the ltz 400 are the same as the kfx400 and art400......
Posted by: troybilt
What do you use for spacers for 400EX a-arms on 250R? ...washers, tubing, etc... 1/4" spacers....
Posted by: 450killer265R
why will the stock 450r shocks fit the 250s?
Posted by: troybilt
quote:
Originally posted by 450killer265R
why will the stock 450r shocks fit the 250s?
I was told they bolt up, just stiffer and taller ride height.
Posted by: Iliketogofast
They do, for a fact, bolt ride up. They are a little stiffer and about 1-2 inches taller ride height, but they bolt right up.
And they are a decent mod if you can't afford aftermarket shocks. I rode a set at the Badlands one weekend and they worked great.
Posted by: Iliketogofast
If the LTZ400 front bumper fits a 250R so will a 450R one, because a 450 one will fit a Z400. My brother is using a 450 bumper on is Z now.
Posted by: badquad
How much modification is needed for the 400ex nerfs to work on the 250R frame.. I have picked up a LRD Aluminum 88/89 frame and I am looking for some Nerfs and pegs. Any ideas?
Posted by: robyone
04 05 brake pads work perfect in the 250r front calipers....they are WAY cheaper than the OEM 250r brake pads.
Posted by: Mxjunkie
I made nerf bars off a Banshee fit my 250r.. Had to make new mounts but hey it works 
Posted by: the glassman
quote:
Originally posted by troybilt
What do you use for spacers for 400EX a-arms on 250R? ...washers, tubing, etc... 1/4" spacers....
i didnt use any spacers on my 86 
Posted by: troybilt
Apparently, 450R plastic bolts up to 88-89 frame????
Saw this on EBAY...
Posted by: ib2strokin
can someone please verify this... this would open up a bunch of new custom setups, especially the seat!!
Posted by: atvmxr
you drill some holes, get enough brackets and cable ties and any plastic with fit
pretty sure stock there is not a hole in the frame under the gas tank where he mounted the front fender...
Posted by: juanki
rear cargo rack from prm for trx 450r 04-06 fit but you have to cut the fenders, did it.
Posted by: troybilt
I can vouch for a Z400 bumper will bolt to an trx250R without much modification.
The bottom bracket needs 1/4" spacers on each side and the top bracket will need the hole diameters increased to allow for about a 1/16" mis-alignment for the holes, will prolly fit anyway, but makes assembly much easier.
I just installed a new blingstar bumper...
Posted by: ib2strokin
well i just won a new Blingstar Victory 2 polished off ebay for $66
so as soon as i get it in ill take some pics with installin it just to give everyone somethin to look at
Posted by: mc_racer
quote:
Originally posted by troybilt
What do you use for spacers for 400EX a-arms on 250R? ...washers, tubing, etc... 1/4" spacers....
I bought a scrape piece of 1/4" thick aluminum. Then used a 1" hole saw to drill out the spacers. Enlarged the center hole with a 10mm drill bit and installed them. They work great and look better then a stack of washers.
Posted by: troybilt
quote:
Originally posted by mc_racer
I bought a scrape piece of 1/4" think aluminum. Then used a 1" hole saw to drill out the spacers. Enlarged the center hole with a 10mm drill bit and installed them. They work great and look better then a stack of washers.
Great idea... not to mention, stacking washer is kind of a pain. Thanks.
Posted by: troybilt
quote:
Originally posted by ib2strokin
well i just won a new Blingstar Victory 2 polished off ebay for $66 so as soon as i get it in ill take some pics with installin it just to give everyone somethin to look at
Good, post'em when you get'em. I was looking at one of those too, only black textured.
If you can get a round file, use it to wallow out the top holes a skosh, and install the bottom first then rotate to the top holes should line right up then.
Posted by: krt400ex
this is an interesting thread, now i know wut works and wut doesnt for when i get my 250R
Posted by: mxduner
anyone have any idea what rear calipers fit my r?
Posted by: ib2strokin
quote:
Originally posted by troybilt
Good, post'em when you get'em. I was looking at one of those too, only black textured.
If you can get a round file, use it to wallow out the top holes a skosh, and install the bottom first then rotate to the top holes should line right up then.
Its installed!!! Man this thing is freakin sweet!! The welds are beautiful and the thing is VERY lightweight! Im not gna go step by step on how to install a 450r bumper cause troybilt said it exactly! only thing is i didnt have to make the hole bigger, the mounting holes are slotted so you have some wiggle room. The key is to start all bolts loosely and tighten sort in a criss cross. Here are some pics of different angles. Hope this helps everyone!
Posted by: ib2strokin
here's another
Posted by: ib2strokin
i used (5) 5/16 washers on each side to take up space.....not what i wanted to use but thats all i had
Posted by: pdxbigfoot
As far as the rear goes jason86PRP250r posted a pic of his YZ426F rear conversion here... http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthr...13&pagenumber=3 using the front caliper.
I talked to him on the phone and he was very helpfull with my conversion. It was a little tricky in some spots as i had to take a file and remove some clearence issues inside the caliper but it wasent a real big deal just time consuming (file,mount,check tollerences...repeat) Like he states you do have to ovalize one of the bolt holes on the brake stay but that was easy.
Im really surprised that more people didnt pick up on this uber trick because i have 5 rear calipers and they are all absolute garbage and i picked up the YZ caliper off E-Bay for $28.00 in almost mint condition.
I wish i could take credit for this but jason86PRP250r has in my opinion the 250R chassis trick of the decade.
Jason
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/.../lucrica020.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/.../lucrica021.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/.../lucrica023.jpg
Posted by: woodsracer144
quote:
Originally posted by Motofool250r
400ex a-arms will fit a 250r with some spacers
400ex axle will fit in a 250r carrier but it has different wheel hub splines if you use 400ex axle u need 400ex hubs
400ex tierods are the same as 250r tierods
450r shocks fit on 400ex and 250r but are setup wider then both stock and so are much stiffer
i cant get my 250r shock in teh 400ex with teh stock 400ex.. the bottom "fork" is too short... what do i do?
Posted by: woodsracer144
quote:
Originally posted by 395Rider
88-89
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/adamadam1672/HPIM3706.jpg
86-87
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a224/adamadam1672/HPIM3708.jpg
Difference of one inch
what did that inch do? is that why i cant bolt my 88 89 stoc 250r reat shock on my 400?
Posted by: woodsracer144
quote:
Originally posted by troybilt
Apparently, 450R plastic bolts up to 88-89 frame????
Saw this on EBAY...
that is flippin sick as hell! i really like that
Posted by: brnrubr4ever
Im doing a 450r swinger mod and need a new pivot bolt do you guys think I can use a 450r one? Im assuming yes anyone know. Also im converting to the 05' rear linkage with a GT Thunder Link i picked up for $60 I'll let you know hoe it goes. This is on an 87' frame
Posted by: brnrubr4ever
quote:
Originally posted by woodsracer144
what did that inch do? is that why i cant bolt my 88 89 stoc 250r reat shock on my 400?
The 88-89 swinger was an inch shorter than the 86-87. it may be to correct suspension geometry.
Posted by: mc_racer
quote:
Originally posted by brnrubr4ever
Im doing a 450r swinger mod and need a new pivot bolt do you guys think I can use a 450r one? Im assuming yes anyone know. Also im converting to the 05' rear linkage with a GT Thunder Link i picked up for $60 I'll let you know hoe it goes. This is on an 87' frame
450r pivot bolt will be fine.
I have a lonestar 450r DC6 linkage on my 86 250r. You will need to make up some bushings. If I remember correctly, they are 14mm inside diameter and 17 mm outside diameter. Then you can use the stock 86 250r bolt at the frame side of the linkage mount.
As far as the shock, I used a stock lenth 250r shock with another custom bushing at the lower mount. I don't remember the specs on that one.
Posted by: brnrubr4ever
quote:
Originally posted by mc_racer
450r pivot bolt will be fine.
I have a lonestar 450r DC6 linkage on my 86 250r. You will need to make up some bushings. If I remember correctly, they are 14mm inside diameter and 17 mm outside diameter. Then you can use the stock 86 250r bolt at the frame side of the linkage mount.
As far as the shock, I used a stock lenth 250r shock with another custom bushing at the lower mount. I don't remember the specs on that one.
Yea I was going to weld some spacers on each side of the frame mount to take up the gaps on each side. as far as bushings you mean the bushings in the linkage right? where did you find the material for that?
Posted by: mc_racer
I have some go kart spindles that are 17mm od. I had a local machine shop bore a 14mm hole though the center, as far as the lenth, I made them the same as the 450r bushings.
I didn't weld the spacers in, just in case I needed to go back to stock later. They don't have to be as exact, just as long as the are 14mm id, I think mine are 25mm or so for the od.
If you want to try to cut down some spindles, I may have some left.
Posted by: brnrubr4ever
cant you just bore the existing bushings?
Posted by: woodsracer144
any one know why the 250r shock isnt boltin up on my 400ex? thanks
Posted by: mc_racer
quote:
Originally posted by brnrubr4ever
cant you just bore the existing bushings?
It would be worth trying. The linkage I bought didn't come with the bushings.
Posted by: brnrubr4ever
ok cool i'll try it.
Posted by: brnrubr4ever
Alright, got it all together it's LOW. With stock 450r linkage. havent got the thunder link yet. Did it lower yours? It doesnt hit anything when the suspension travels but ? Maybe long travel shock? Looks bad ***** though.
Posted by: mc_racer
What shock are you using? 450r or 250r?
Mine sits just right with the long travel 450r linkage and stock lenth 250r shock.
Posted by: brnrubr4ever
250r. Whats just right? This is my first sport quad and ive had it for about 3 weeks. Im used to lifted utilities.
Thanks
Posted by: brnrubr4ever
Just put the GTT linkage on and my shock bottoms out with me jumping on the back of it. the the stock 450r linkage its ok. What are my options on the shock? aftermarket, long travel....?
Thanks
Posted by: mc_racer
Your options are pretty open. I just know what I tried.
stock 86 250r linkage+stock 250r shock+07 450r swingarm=too tall
stock 07 450r linkage+stock 06 450r shock+07 450r swingarm=too low
stock 07 450r linkage+stock 250r shock+07 450r swingarm=too tall
Lonestar DC6 linkage+stock 250r shock+07 450r swingarm=just right
If the height is right and everything cycles fine with the GTT linkage, you may just need the shock revalved and resprung for the setup.
Posted by: brnrubr4ever
My seat with the GTT linkage stock 250r shock is about 28" that about good or is that too low? Where can I get the shock re-valved re-sprung?
Posted by: mc_racer
You will want ro go by frame height instead of seat height. Depends on what you are doing with it. For XC I tried to run 7 1/2-8" high at the footpegs and about 3/4" higher at the front motor mount. That is with me on the bike.
C&D racing can take care of your shock work.
Posted by: brnrubr4ever
ok cool im trying to set it up for XC.
THanks for your help
Posted by: swamprat250r
does anyone know if any other axle carriers will fit an 88r besides the 400ex
Posted by: racerx573
FYI, dog bones will work between models. I ran the longer one on my '89 based bike when I had a stock frame. It lowers the bike, and you have to specify what swingarm/linkage when you get your shock valved. Ever see those adjustable dog bones made by Dura Blue??
Posted by: brnrubr4ever
Yea I've seen it but im using 450r linkage I got it taken care of anyways. I bought the elka LT 450r linkage and LT shock combo works great!!!!
Thanks
Posted by: rossco864
Any other steering stems work on the 88/89 models? I've heard there are differences between the 86/87 and 88/89 is this true?
Posted by: brandonpeake
steering stems,
i heard 400ex stems work on all R's but could be wrong there could be a roll thing where it has to be roll but besides that can anyone confirm
and to the thread starter ill help u fill in the sheet i got some testing to do also
3rd 450r shocks will fit and work great after they are revslved, they fit stock but i dont know how the perform
Posted by: troybilt
quote:
Originally posted by brandonpeake
steering stems,
i heard 400ex stems work on all R's but could be wrong there could be a roll thing where it has to be roll but besides that can anyone confirm
and to the thread starter ill help u fill in the sheet i got some testing to do also
3rd 450r shocks will fit and work great after they are revslved, they fit stock but i dont know how the perform
yeah, let me know what I need to add to the spreadsheet, or I can send it to you.
thanks,
T
Posted by: brandonpeake
send it to me
brandonpeakeatgmail.com
I got lots of parts I can try on my 87
and I got an idea to well lets say take someone elses ides change it and make it better
Posted by: gearhead11
a 300ex lonestar axle will work. you have to machine the stock 250r brake hub down( the part that goes toward the lock nut. machine it all the way down to the hub itself. im running this setup now. had a bent r axle and agood 300 axle' so i figured what the heck. it works
Posted by: swamprat250r
dont know if anyone else tried this but ltr450 shocks do not fit on any r's tried and was out a couple hundred
Posted by: atvmxr
biz-zump
chart on page 2...
could probably use a lil more updating...
Posted by: troybilt
quote:
Originally posted by atvmxr
biz-zump
chart on page 2...
could probably use a lil more updating...
Yes, I agree... I'll get on it.
Posted by: troybilt
What does everyone want on the chart? ...besides whether parts are interchangeable or not? Also, does anyone have time to help with this? I'm traveling quite a bit and also getting married in 3 weeks so I don't have much spare time at the moment.
Thanks,
T
Posted by: ZRider400
450r rear brake master cylinder will fit, just have to make extension on the shaft.
spindles/cal/hubs fit also.
Posted by: volsung
I know that this is not the exact topic but here are two part numbers that I use on my R
PT907257 5908-VAW This is a part number for bearings that will fit the aftermarket rear bearing carrier usually at auto parts stores for around $9 They are not sealed so they need to be packed with grease and maintained but they hold up well.
ES2074r This is a part number for Ford courier tie rod ends that work as balljoints. I took my stock lower a arms to a machinist and had them cut a machined so I can use them in both upper and lower a arms. They also fit Burgard arms as well.
I'm also running 450 front shocks on my 87 with no mods.
Posted by: ballzdeep38
did those ford tie rod ends install into the top a arms with out any mods? i may have to replace my upper ones since the boot ripped. will there be any issues with using the ford one on top and stock on the bottom?
Posted by: volsung
On the burgard arms, there was no modification at all.
On the stock ones, I had to file the threads flat on the top and bottom of the tie rod end to fit. Take time to make sure the angle is correct. I've also heard of people drilling the flat parts out of the upper a arms. Other than that, you may need some 16mm nuts as the stock nuts are 14mm. I found these tie rod ends for about $13 at autozone.
I've never tried to run the stock bottoms with these at top. But I can't see why it would make a difference.
Posted by: rigger
Axle info.
I am building up an old 250R
I have heard that you could run all 250R rear axle and brake parts or all 400EX. But you had to run all of one or the other.
I had all 400EX parts in mine. Got my hands on an RPM adjustable axle. I made the 250R axle work with the 400ex brake parts and axle nut.
All I did was make a 1/8" thick spacer to go between the axle nut and brake hub. Seems like it will work just fine. But it will be a long time before I will get to really try it out because I have a long way to go before I will be able to ride.
Now I may still take all the 400 brake parts and axle nut back off and find all 250R stuff to put back on just because. But I do not see any problems at all with what I did on mine. The only real reason I wanted to run the 400 brake parts is because I just already had them and that was that many less parts I have to buy.
Well I just went outside and and put the 400 caliper on. Found a problem. The caliper sits so far back on the brake stay that it covers the allen bolts on the carrier. So if you want to adjust the chain, you have to remove the caliper. Other than that, it shold work fine.
Guess I am going to be putting all 250R back on it.
Posted by: dunatic
quote:
Originally posted by brandonpeake
steering stems,
i heard 400ex stems work on all R's but could be wrong there could be a roll thing where it has to be roll but besides that can anyone confirm
and to the thread starter ill help u fill in the sheet i got some testing to do also
3rd 450r shocks will fit and work great after they are revslved, they fit stock but i dont know how the perform
I dont think so. the steering stop is different.
Posted by: mc_racer
quote:
Originally posted by ZRider400
450r rear brake master cylinder will fit, just have to make extension on the shaft.
spindles/cal/hubs fit also.
Or just swap the shaft out of your 250r rear master cylinder. It's the same other then the lenth. Just pull the boot off and one snapring to change them.
Posted by: volsung
Picture for riderssb250x
Posted by: mcarlson1
Did anyone ever figure out or try 450r or LTR450 a arms on your bikes? Im wanting to know if you can put onj 450r arms so that way it opens our options alot more for a arms.
Thanks,
Mike
Posted by: CoDean45
I had a set of AC Racing nerf bars without pegs on my 86 250r. I bought a set of AC Racing nerf bars with pegs and sold the nerf bars without pegs to a friend of mine. He had a 04 Z400 and they bolted right up with no mods. So maybe Z400 nerfs will work?
Posted by: woodsracer144
quote:
Originally posted by mcarlson1
Did anyone ever figure out or try 450r or LTR450 a arms on your bikes? Im wanting to know if you can put onj 450r arms so that way it opens our options alot more for a arms.
Thanks,
Mike
450r a-arms dont fit... a good one to check would be the can am.. ds450x...
Posted by: atvmxr
quote:
Originally posted by ZRider400
450r rear brake master cylinder will fit, just have to make extension on the shaft.
spindles/cal/hubs fit also.
450r front hubs will fit on 88+ spindles??
where is that updated chart???
Posted by: 86 Quad R
quote:
Originally posted by mcarlson1
Did anyone ever figure out or try 450r or LTR450 a arms on your bikes? Im wanting to know if you can put onj 450r arms so that way it opens our options alot more for a arms.
Thanks,
Mike
the upper ltr450 a-arms will fit with very little mod but the lowers wont even come close. 
Posted by: scottsworld
i put 400ex spindles,hubs,and brakes on my 86
Posted by: jcs003
do the 450r a-arms fit a 400ex? if so they should work on the 250r's also.
Posted by: woodsracer144
450r a-arms dont work....
Posted by: lostsheep
400EX rear shock is a different length and the lower end by the link is a different width. I just found out last night.
Posted by: DEERCHOOPER
450r a arms are 1'' wider at the frame than the 250r a arms.
Posted by: rigger
Swing arm bolts.
I have put both 400EX and 450R swing arm bolts in my 86' frame. Both worked just fine. I ended up with a 450R bolt in mine because for some reason they are much cheaper than a 400EX or 250R bolt.
Posted by: jcs003
i do believe stearing stems from 450 work on 400 and 250. i am trying the 450 on the 400 as soon as i get the bearings.
Posted by: honda4traxx87
What about Nerf Bars...(Pro Peg)??? Roll/IMS Kick Up Foot pegs???
anyone got any?
Posted by: Honda 250r 001
hey someone send me the file so i can update this. Because i could update this daily if someone would get me the sheet that is already started. This would help a bunch on completing this chart.
Posted by: bluetrx
quote:
Originally posted by jcs003
i do believe stearing stems from 450 work on 400 and 250. i am trying the 450 on the 400 as soon as i get the bearings.
i have a 400ex steering sten in my 250r and it works, but the bump stop is diffrent so it takes some modification or it will hit the stop after the bars are only slightly turned. easy mod if you have an angle grinder with a cutoff wheel and a welder.
Posted by: troybilt
Hey Honda 250R 001, I tried to reply to your PM but its full. I can send to you if you send me your email address.
Posted by: Honda 250r 001
sorry man check again i cleaned it out.
Posted by: Honda 250r 001
ok so i updated it, but i dont know how to get it into picture form. anyone help me?
Posted by: troybilt
Sure. Alt+PrintScreen, then paste in Microsoft Picture Editor or something similar and save as a jpg.
Posted by: Honda 250r 001
i have a mac but i have an idea.
Posted by: troybilt
All, Honda 250R 001 asked me to attach this to the thread he updated it with the latest information (thanks Honda 250r 001).
Posted by: Honda 250r 001
ok thanks man. im sure theres at least one thing wrong but thats everything i have heard. Any one have anything to add?
Posted by: Honda 250r 001
you know i started lookin on ebay and z400 front shocks look VERY similar to the 450r shocks. maybe t hey will fit which would be sweet because they are more like the yfz shocks, not as stiff or tall. anyone help me out with this?
Posted by: factoryX
okay since the list is not listing parts for 86-87 250r I believe it is still not finished, and also to many people saying the same thing, 450r can be multiple bikes, yfz, ltz, trx, and more:
450r front shocks is a bolt on for both 86-87 and 88-89, yes?
400ex front shocks are a direct bolt on yes?
400ex a-arms are a easy bolt on with spacers for both years yes?
trx450r front bumper easy to bolt on with space yes? what about the 400ex front bumper?
400ex plastics are hard but a simple plastics to put on, must make mount for the front fenders, must use the 400ex seat and must use the 250r latch. also must grind the gas tank cover to accept the 250r gas tank.
I have no clue about 450r plastics but I would not do it because of the fact of it being a nightmare to take it back apart.
trx450r swinger will work but you will have trouble with linkage and moding the dust caps to work.
I would like know more but the sheet is not doing it for me.
Posted by: Honda 250r 001
ok if the 450r front shocks fit the 88-89 250r, and 86-87 shocks fit the 88-89 250r. then the 450r front shocks fit the 86-87 250r. same with the 400ex. they fit all years.
I have only heard that the bumper will work. somone needs to confirm. I did not put anything on there that you needed to make a custom frame to make it fit. the 400ex bumper only needs a few washers on the bottom mount on each side.
The 450r swingarm will work if you haev a adjustible linkage.
the 400ex a arms will work with a few washers, nothing too major.
Posted by: woodsracer144
the ltz 400 a-arms will work on the 250r, you just have to shim it... and i think its safe to say the brake lines are all the same... just need the right lenght....
Posted by: leager-n-ky
I know the 400ex anti fade has a larger brake rotor hub than the 250r, I dont know about the 450.
Posted by: DEERCHOOPER
how about throwing in the 400ex and 450r swing arm bolt is the same and cheaper
Posted by: upinsmoke
I search but found no answer it says 400ex swingarm will fit 250r with mods but what are the mods and are they the same mods for after market 400ex swingers thanks?
Posted by: Honda 250r 001
about the same. the 400ex swiger is not much of an upgrade though. the 450r swingarm is your best bet.
Posted by: jcs003
the swinger is fine. the issue is the linkage. the angle is wrong between the 250r mount and the 400ex linkage. it will bind the shock, so the linkage has to be custom.
Posted by: rhinorick
300ex bumper fit on with a little heat and a deadblow it wasnt that far off
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/atvriderz/Picture-1.jpg
Posted by: LPR
quote:
Originally posted by woodsracer144
the ltz 400 a-arms will work on the 250r, you just have to shim it... and i think its safe to say the brake lines are all the same... just need the right lenght....
I have my stock z400 a arms right here and a 87 frame right here and they DO NOT fit a 87r frame.
Posted by: jcs003
will a 250r rear shock fit on a 400ex??
Posted by: voodoochassis
bombardier ds650 a-arms will fit 250r 86-89 with no modifications..we just pulled a set of asr's off and the bolted right up..
Posted by: jcs003
quote:
Originally posted by jcs003
will a 250r rear shock fit on a 400ex??
bump for some help please. thanks.
Posted by: Honda 250r 001
i do not think that the shocks between 400ex and 250r interchange, but i could be mistaken. I would say no, because the 400ex shock does not fit on the 250r. :/
Posted by: factoryX
they should work, because people put trx450r front shocks on trx250r's all the time, and they also bolt onto the 400ex...so?
Posted by: factoryX
quote:
Originally posted by voodoochassis
bombardier ds650 a-arms will fit 250r 86-89 with no modifications..we just pulled a set of asr's off and the bolted right up..
did you guys use the stock spindles from the 250r? this is cool. Also, what about a yfz450 rear shock? or even yfz450 a-arms..jeez
Posted by: factoryX
also has anyone looked at the preditor 500 swing arm?
Posted by: voodoochassis
either set of spindle will work..we had the ds on there at first but ended up putting 250r back on due to bolt pattern and we already had douglas wheels for the r spindles..
Posted by: factoryX
so the the 250r spindles will work to? what year spendles?
Posted by: troybilt
2 questions:
Is this anybody's on here and is this 400Ex plastic on a 250R frame? I like this look and curious what it took to do so.
Posted by: mc_racer
Looks like Laker plastics to me.
Posted by: troybilt
quote:
Originally posted by mc_racer
Looks like Laker plastics to me.
Hadn't thought of that, but the QT hood looks different to me than the 250R's hood. Looks like more of a slope.
Posted by: 416exfreak
What kind of modifications would I need to make for a swingarm, and a-arms from my 02 400ex, to fit my '86 250r?
I dont wanna spend 600 bucks on a new swinger, axle, carrier, caliper, etc for the 250r because im selling whichever of the two I like least.
Posted by: 416exfreak
quote:
Originally posted by troybilt
2 questions:
Is this anybody's on here and is this 400Ex plastic on a 250R frame? I like this look and curious what it took to do so.
Those are factory 400ex plastcics, shaved with a CF hood.
Im going to say thats a 250r frame. 87-89 I think (did 87 come with the square frame?).
At any rate, those ARE 400ex plastics, this I know for sure. And they aren't lakers, just OEM stuff.
Posted by: rigger
shifter
I am sure this has been mentioned some where before but I put an aluminum shifter from rocky mountain for a 450R on my R project the other night and it looks like it will work just fine. It sticks out a little bit more but not much. It was cheap and looks pretty good for what it is.
Posted by: leager-n-ky
quote:
Originally posted by 416exfreak
Those are factory 400ex plastcics, shaved with a CF hood.
Im going to say thats a 250r frame. 87-89 I think (did 87 come with the square frame?).
At any rate, those ARE 400ex plastics, this I know for sure. And t
hey aren't lakers, just OEM stuff.
86-89 Had square tubing for frames.
Posted by: 2muchquad
z400 shocks fit on my 86 R a while back,i had some new take offs from a 03 z 400,the new z400s have rezzies but they should still be 16in or so eye to eye.this is stuff i have SEEN myself and confirmed,they will work
Posted by: 250rPRIDE
i put 400ex plastic on my 88 r in the past it told 1 night, nothing to major i just did it all on mine own with no instructions, you need 400ex seat and all the plastic, but i made my 88 hood fit with headlight and it looked factory when done. i might do this again with my new r project i got
Posted by: Banshee_370
quote:
Originally posted by 250rPRIDE
i put 400ex plastic on my 88 r in the past it told 1 night, nothing to major i just did it all on mine own with no instructions, you need 400ex seat and all the plastic, but i made my 88 hood fit with headlight and it looked factory when done. i might do this again with my new r project i got
Posted by: 250rPRIDE
sorry i dont have a scanner, all my pics were with a 35mm back then,
Posted by: troybilt
BUMPERS:
450R will fit except: (I have an 06 450r)
1. Bottom holes need 3 washers on each side for spacers.
2. Top holes need 1 washer on each side for spacer or bend the ears in to fit.
3. One set of the holes either top or bottom needs to be elongated roughly 1-2 mm to clear.
I just checked with my 450r I just bought.
z400
1. Bottom holes need 3 washers on each side for spacers.
2. One set of the holes either top or bottom needs to be elongated roughly 1-2 mm to clear.
I currently have one installed on my 89R
However!!!
z400 on 450r => won't work unless you spread the upper ears apart, the Z is narrower by about 2mm on each side on the top mounting ears. The holes line up though.
Happy hunting.
Posted by: cartman0102
- spindles
- Hubs front
- brake calipers
trx 450R fit a 250R?
I can keep my arms a-TRX 250R?
Front brake disc trx 250R fit a trx 450R hubs?
Sorry for my bad English.
Thanks
Posted by: cartman0102
help
Posted by: troybilt
Hey cartman, try this thread and see if it answers your questions. I've never done the conversion myself but it has been done before.
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthr...threadid=155875
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