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09 450r's??
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Posted by: coreymx58

just curious to see what you guys think they will do to them? Have you heard any rumors? Any ideas?

Posted by: RoadRidin450r

I think they are going to put efi on them being that the new trx700 has the efi so i figure they are going to see how that works out and put it on the 450 in 09 or 10? Also maybe change the styling a little but if they do something stupid like the 700 or 400 then keep it the way it looks.

Posted by: pro-rider46

yeah, i really hope for some efi, that would be awesome, and i hope they dont do anything for the styling, i think the plastics on the other hondas look gay, i wouldnt mind like a special theme type color, just not a whole thing, just keep em like a 06+ and put some better stuff on it, like razrs or itps, some tag bars or something, and some better shocks, maybe even a hrc kit that has new shocks and a arms, with axles, and stuff to make it race ready, and another kit that does the engine, idk, i think it would be cool to get a quad with options, to be competitve wiht the zukes,

Posted by: coreymx58

i hope they come with some renthal or pro taper fat bars like the kawi does, and make the a-arms an inch wider on each side, and efi. That would be sweet imo.

Posted by: bloodmoney23

well if they make it like the Kawi.....it would be a Kawi. None the less i think it would cost a little more for bolt ons and such since with EFI you get to a certain point you need a new fuel pump, injectors, computer and all that. just like working with a import car. I prefer carbs.

Posted by: coreymx58

efi is lighter and gives more power though, don't it?

Posted by: pro-rider46

well efi is more user friendly, but i would think that the carbs make more hp. even top fuel dragsters are carb. and the suzuki team uses carbs, but still efi is nice, and if you can afford some of the stuff to get it to need a larger fuel pump, you can probably afford one, but you can still convert them to carbs,

Posted by: MX MaNiAc 06

I really hope they put independant rear suspension on the 09!!

Posted by: FoxHondaRider

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Originally posted by MX MaNiAc 06
I really hope they put independant rear suspension on the 09!!

I dont IRS isnt really for MX more trails or rough terrain. I would just hope to see EFI, and maybe razrs all around.

Posted by: d3ktrix

I'd like to see some real suspension on a stock honda.

Posted by: bigbadbubba

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Originally posted by pro-rider46
well efi is more user friendly, but i would think that the carbs make more hp. even top fuel dragsters are carb. and the suzuki team uses carbs, but still efi is nice, and if you can afford some of the stuff to get it to need a larger fuel pump, you can probably afford one, but you can still convert them to carbs,

ware did you hear suzuki using carbs???

Posted by: FoxHondaRider

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Originally posted by d3ktrix
I'd like to see some real suspension on a stock honda.

only problem with that is price will go way up on them and it may not be he suspension you wanted to get or you might need to take them off due to sponsorships but nice idea like the KTM. I say EFI and Razrs is probally the best thing to update.

Posted by: mx1791

well id like to see a gas tank more like the yfz/ltr/kfx. a rear end that doesnt suck. and thats about it..

Posted by: Drewltr450

efi and just keep the old honda black and red plain black and plain red if u wana make it look differnt from other 450r's get a graphics kit and some stickers.

Posted by: bloodmoney23

Hey i would like to see alot of things on the 09 done. most of which is already mentioned. But RAZRS, prolly aint gonna happen, Honda is too cheap. Better suspension.....they will prolly change the swingarm and linkage but i see the front staying the same. And just to piss off the user they will make it just a little different in every aspect so you cant interchange any other year parts with it.

Posted by: pro-rider46

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Originally posted by bigbadbubba
ware did you hear suzuki using carbs???

in a thread similar to this, people were arguing about whats better carb or efi, and acouple people said if efis so great, why did the team use fcr's

Posted by: bigbadbubba

nope suzuki is still using the efi, never touched a carb.

Posted by: coreymx58

I want them to make it more mx friendly.

Posted by: GE4x4

I believe the Zuki DB are still carb and the rest of DB racers.

Posted by: bigbadbubba

nope, not that i know of, but if you have proof please post it up

Posted by: GE4x4

the 07 series had all the DB with carb. Starting in 08 Suzuki will have EFI in there DB, so we will have to see how they do before we can pass judgement.

Posted by: meadey#1

does any one know why honda have waited so late to bring in the efi ?

are honda falling behind ?

cheers

Posted by: Sjorge300EX

quote:
Originally posted by meadey#1
does any one know why honda have waited so late to bring in the efi ?

are honda falling behind ?

cheers

there is no need to change something that is winning championships and races across the world. Think about it. I hope they just do little things like handle bars, tires. Maybe do a race bike that comes with nerfs and the HRC already installed. IDK, either way, you will not get me to get rid of my 05. I will have that thing until i die....lol

Posted by: meadey#1

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Originally posted by Sjorge300EX
there is no need to change something that is winning championships and races across the world. Think about it. I hope they just do little things like handle bars, tires. Maybe do a race bike that comes with nerfs and the HRC already installed. IDK, either way, you will not get me to get rid of my 05. I will have that thing until i die....lol

i didnt say that it needed changing...

Posted by: lundgrener02

efi is nice and i'm sure thats the way all quads will be eventually, but till then i have no problem running a carb. efi weighs more and makes it so much more technical to work with if you have problems. its just like the old days with trucks it was easy to work on them and now i wouldn't dare touching my new truck if something went wrong because there is so much computer crap. keep it easy in my opinion, if you complain about changing a jet then i guess you need it but thats simple.

Posted by: coreymx58

I want them to go efi but if they don't i will not care that much. Either way i am honda for life!

Posted by: lundgrener02

quote:
Originally posted by coreymx58
I want them to go efi but if they don't i will not care that much. Either way i am honda for life!

i agree, but even if they do get efi in 09 i'll probly stick with what i got unless theres some other changes that i feel are worth it.

Posted by: 4ABURN

I love my er but they should make the r wider for the racers and keep the er the same. As far as efi goes I like it temp changes alot here so it would be nice to not change jet often. My old 93 wildcat sled was efi and I loved that thing never a problem.

Posted by: Ty's400

I'd like to see the weak spots on the frame addressed from the factory. Fuel injected would be nice but not absolutely a must. Higher up rear shock mount for better shock leverage. 04/05 spindle design used again. The rest basically gets changed anyways

Posted by: Vade

something useful that we can cross over to our bikes like a racier suspension making the stance lower with better handling

Posted by: k265r

if a quad came from the factory race ready, all you had to do is get on and ride that wouldnt be fun takes the love out of knowing your quad. in my opinion honda makes a quality product above the others, it may not be race ready for everyone but an all around performer.

Posted by: Blown 331

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Originally posted by pro-rider46
well efi is more user friendly, but i would think that the carbs make more hp. even top fuel dragsters are carb. and the suzuki team uses carbs, but still efi is nice, and if you can afford some of the stuff to get it to need a larger fuel pump, you can probably afford one, but you can still convert them to carbs,

Top fuel dragsters are injected. Just sayin.

Posted by: Dave400ex

Make the frame stronger, fix the rear suspension, beef up the bottom end of the engines, dual piston rear caliper are some I can think of that would be a nice change.

Posted by: NJ450rider

dave400ex is on the right track in a realistic world. All i can say is that i love everything about my 450r but the engines are junk. they breakdown way to fast. Repairing them is so costly it isnt fun anymore. That is where honda needs to go first. engine reliability for the average person/racer!!! After that would be handling/suspension. They should be at least 46 inches wide in stock form with at last an inch or two more travel on the stock shocks. Maybe the swing arm being a tiny bit longer(maybe 1/2") A lil bit stronger frame in key spots. Better stock tires wouldnt hurt either(dunlops maybe?) The rest of the bike isnt to bad. EFI would be fine with me but if it doesnt have it than so what adjusting a carb isnt that hard either.

For me im just waiting for the long term tests of the can am ds450, ktm 450 and kfx450. The ktm sx450 wont be out till 2009. so im thinking my new 450 desicion wont be till 2009.

Posted by: rollie

My prediction on the 09 hondas is bold new graphics