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new to using klotz, which klotz should I use?
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Posted by: Renato250r

I have a stock 86 250r, I have been fouling plugs within an hour (black and wet) mechanic is gonna go through my carb and rejet it too. Was wondering which klotz oil to buy? 50:1 or r50 etc..Just going to ride leisurely through trails, dont know much about oils but going to try klotz..dont know which one though..
tia

Posted by: lbz#7

i run r 50@ 32;1

Posted by: Aceman

I'm also going to be running r50 at 32:1.

Posted by: 86 Quad R

unless ur running race fuel or other the r50 will be fine. the kl100 is formulated for race fuels and/or alki.

Posted by: Creech52

Strange how no one mentioned super techniplate, I ran it in my banshee at 32:1 and worked fine. I didnt really use it that much before I got rid of the bike though, probably 3 5gal cans worth. I was also running a 50/50 mix of 110 and 92 oct fuel . Smoke was usually low and never had any plug problems....(now Im stuck with 8 brand new NGK plugs and nothing to put them in)

Posted by: 86 Quad R

kl-100 is super techniplate.

Posted by: Creech52

well in that case I was running KL-101 (super tech by the gallon) Sorry not familar with part numbers, I just seen everyone naming the 50:1 super techniplate and the R50 not the castor synthetic mix techniplate. Which I never thought to be formulated for race fuels. I do however like to stay away from straight castor oils, as Ive heard lots a bad things on them gumming up engines (Castor 929)

Posted by: Klotzlubemn

The R-50 is a very good oil. Super high film strength and great for high revving motors.

The flex drive 30 is also an excellent gear box lube that they offer.

What are you paying for R-50? 32.00 per gallon?

Rick

Posted by: 312R1

quote:
Originally posted by Creech52
well in that case I was running KL-101 (super tech by the gallon) Sorry not familar with part numbers, I just seen everyone naming the 50:1 super techniplate and the R50 not the castor synthetic mix techniplate. Which I never thought to be formulated for race fuels. I do however like to stay away from straight castor oils, as Ive heard lots a bad things on them gumming up engines (Castor 929)

I have always ran castor 927 without any build up at all.

Posted by: Aceman

quote:
Originally posted by 86 Quad R
unless ur running race fuel or other the r50 will be fine. the kl100 is formulated for race fuels and/or alki.

Why can't I run R50 with straight race fuel? I've been running it at 40:1 with 50/50 mix but since I just rebuilt my engine it's pushed my compression up to 215. I've looked at Klotz's website and I see nothing that prohibits race fuel.

Posted by: 86 Quad R

because the kl-100 is specifically formulated for the race fuels whereas the r-50 is not. r-50 will/can have a tendousy to seperate after setting for a while depending on humidity and or tempurature.

Posted by: Aceman

Ahh, I see. I still have more than a gallon left, I guess I'll be mixing it in small batches to keep that from happening.

Once I run out I'll consider switching to kl-100.

Posted by: Creech52

to the person that pays 32 a gal...wow. I paid 42 for my supertech ( or as everyone is reffering to KL100) .
Now that I havent had a running bike for awhile Ive been using it in our chainsaws...man it smells good!

Posted by: 86 Quad R

quote:
Originally posted by Creech52
Now that I havent had a running bike for awhile Ive been using it in our chainsaws...man it smells good!

ehhhhh!! i hear that. no need in letting it go to waste. if my mixed gas sets for more than two weeks, it gets used in the chain saws and weed wackers.

Posted by: Aceman

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Originally posted by Creech52
to the person that pays 32 a gal...wow. I paid 42 for my supertech ( or as everyone is reffering to KL100) .

Then you're getting hosed.

Rocky Mtn sells it all day long for about $30, that's R50 and Super Techniplate.

Posted by: Creech52

I had about a gallon of my 110/93 mix fuel for the banshee, it was getting old so I tossed it in the chainsaw and my dad was running it. He got all worried it was running hot and stuff from it, It was mixed 32:1 compared to 40:1 recomended. He did say he loved the smell though haha

I did get hosed, but there are no shops around that stock it, and the one local shop wanted a deposit to order it?? So I started going to this other shop called IMX , they were cool dudes and I spent some bucks there. Well they said they were going to order us some in because they had some other people ask about it. So they got it and I paid their retail price. I usually only order through the net now anyway so next time....