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Final Reveal!!! What's left???
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Posted by: ThePhantomRider

Well tomorrow is the day that we get to see the finished product, to pull all that we have learned so far together and show us the newest and most advanced sport ATV that has come along in years!!!

Hope the specs cover all the measurements, weight, capacities etc....

I have not been riding in soooooo long, I can't wait till these are available so I can get back to my love of riding!!

TPR

Posted by: strubby

You're buying one? Sweet, can't wait for the ride review!

Posted by: ThePhantomRider

Whenever they are released, yeah, I'll be at the local Can-Am dealer with cash in hand.

Even if the motor was equal to the rest, the chassis more than makes up for it.

That said, I can't imagine the powerplant on this machine will be anything less than as stellar as what they have shown so far...

Tomorrow night will complete the validation for me waiting till everyone has their cards on the table.

Sure the KTM 525 is nice, and had Can-Am not gone to all this effort, I might have leaned more towards KTM.

Not now!!!

TPR

Posted by: DEVINF450R

I will prob go with ktm.... but it will be KTM's first quad, but it is BRP's first 450...

Posted by: xsr_racing28c

I think there is a reason why BRP has waited til the last minute to unveil the motor. BRP has done great with there snowmobile motors bring alot of technology to the market using many different variations of motors, and I don't think that this Can Am DS will be any exception.

I am expecting to see 43-48 HP stock, with a pretty refined EFI system.... I may be off, but I've been around BRP products for years and know what they are capable of...

~Jay

Posted by: R8 450

Entire magnesium engine and 60 to 70 hp stock, industry first

Posted by: bwamos

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Originally posted by R8 450
Entire magnesium engine and 60 to 70 hp stock, industry first

Fireball anyone?
I dont know.. but I really don't want magnesium anywhere near my combution chamber.. lol. Have you ever seen magnesium burn? It's not pretty.. lol. That's why they use it for covers.

Edit: Did some research. It appears that porshe and a few other have a high temp mag alloy that can be used for engine blocks.

That would be pretty sweet.

Posted by: yamadjs08

Yeah, plus the fact that coolant eats at magnesium...

Posted by: bwamos

Aye, you'd definatly have to run magnesium safe coolant. Can't run the normal stuff.

Posted by: c450Razy

well its midnight and the website is blank so they are getting ready to shows us what they got!!!

Posted by: 07250ex

samething is happening to me the site is blank lol

Posted by: kbass24emtp

Figures, the site goes down at midnight.

Posted by: 07250ex

quote:
Originally posted by kbass24emtp
Figures, the site goes down at midnight.

lmao

Posted by: kbass24emtp

If you go to their regular web site you can see the engine and it gives a small discription.

Posted by: OutlawBill

it sure is ugly from the front

Posted by: kbass24emtp

Its working now.

Posted by: c450Razy

i think that they are prob updating it

Posted by: OutlawBill

head lights have to go looks like a big bug with them

Posted by: c450Razy

man can you say FUGULY!!!

Posted by: Screven_Rida

I thought this thing was going to be much much better in the engine department than it is. Not saying its bad I just expected a little more. And yall are right it is the worst looking quad out IMO.

Posted by: kbass24emtp

I don't know it this is a typo, but in the specs it states that it has a solid rear axle. I thought in one of the videos they said it has a hollow rear axle? Now I wonder how much this thing is going to cost. Can't wait to see one in person.

Posted by: Screven_Rida

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Posted by: Screven_Rida

I think they mean like a solid axle instead of independant suspension.

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Posted by: 07250ex

wow this whole time they get us all amped up on how light it is and its 5 pounds less big whoppdie *bleepin* do all that for 5 pounds saved and an ugly quad ... no thank you

Posted by: OutlawBill

MX race set up looks just as heavy as any other 450. thew stock quad is only 345 LBS just 5 LBS lighter than the Yamaha

Posted by: 07250ex

if they made this with a steel frame like the yfz a non hollow axle and steel lower a arms this thing wuld be a absolute tank

Posted by: mickey400ex

its working now, i really dont like the headlights, but it reminds me of a yfz from the side

Posted by: jmoney45

Are you guys serious? Just 5 lbs. lighter than the yamaha which doesn't have FI. It's also 9% more powerful than the Honda. Come on. Can Am just upped the bar in this class.

Posted by: DEVINF450R

I am gonna agree...5lbs lighter, with all if not more of that weight saved in the holow axle and aluminum a-arms that HAVE to be replaced by guys who actually NEED the weight savings.... us MXers. if it was 48 or 49inches wide I would be impressed (and they have a lifetime guarantee on the axle and a-arms). plus the radiator is not in the spot I would have placed it.... it belongs BEHIND the steering stem. too vulnerable up there

Posted by: Fred55

As shown in the Epic video, Cam Am does have a mx axle for the 450.

Posted by: strubby

I have to admit, if I hadn't already bought my LTR 3 months ago, I'd be considering this... But now, since I love my LTR, I'll be waiting to see what KTM throws out there as well. I'll just have to con a friend into buying one of these... ha.

Posted by: 07250ex

what does fi have to anything with wait i doubt it ways anymore then a carberator

Posted by: CannondaleRider

quote:
Originally posted by 07250ex
what does fi have to anything with wait i doubt it ways anymore then a carberator

Might want to know a bit about things before you say stuff.

Carburetor - Just the carb itself. Yeah, lots of needles, jets, slides, etc......but, not much to it, including weight.

Fuel Injection - Throttle body, injectors, computer(usually much larger then the CDI on other bikes), wiring harness(also much larger, and more intricate then other bikes), fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, more sensors, etc. etc........A lot more stuff to it, including weight

Posted by: 07250ex

ahh now theres one more reason why i dont like FI if its really so great why don't the dirtbikes have it ? hmmm ... cuz its just a gimic to charge more

Posted by: First Outlander

In two years all MX bikes will be FI, they are racing them in Japan now(prototypes).

This motor should last a lot longer than others because my friends aprilla mille motor has 5,000 miles of race time on it with no repairs.

This should be the bike to beat IMO!

Posted by: honda350r

Stock Honda axles are hollow and have been for many years!

Posted by: CannondaleRider

quote:
Originally posted by 07250ex
ahh now theres one more reason why i dont like FI if its really so great why don't the dirtbikes have it ? hmmm ... cuz its just a gimic to charge more

For one, many manufactures have been testing EFI on the bikes for quite a while now.

Also, dude, you ride a 250EX "with no airbox lid"....therefore, you have no idea what your talking about when it comes to high performance......Not bashing you, or your bike, it's cool that your out there, and riding.....but you can't know much about high performance.....and it shows in your posts.

Once you ride a high performance bike thats carburated, and a high performance bike that is fuel injected, and have a working knowledge of how each works, and performs....you'll understand. Until then, you will be clueless.