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2007 ATVA MX Nationals Round #3 - The Wrangler at Oak Hill - Live Coverage
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Posted by: Ralph

18 Pro's signed up for todays event and after and exciting 1st Moto theres no telling what Moto 2 will have in store for us. Will Joe Byrd be able to secure another 1st overall or will Team Suzuki give Byrd and Team Honda a run for their Money.

Moto 1:

John Natalie grabbed the holeshot.

In turn two Natalie and Harold Goodman got tied up and Goodman wrecked.

Keith little went down at the end of the First lap.

Natalie maintained the lead for the 1st half of the race until his bike mysteriously quit.

Chad Wienen stalled which left Jeremy Lawson and Byrd battling for the lead.

Pat brown, who was running mid-pack, also stalled his Yamaha over a big step up.

Joe Byrd held on for the Moto 1 win followed by Lawson and Wienen.

1. Joe Byrd
2. Jeremy Lawson
3. Chad Wienen
4. Dustin Wimmer
5. Doug Gust

Posted by: Ralph

Check back for Moto 2 Coverage at about 4 eastern time.

Posted by: Ralph

Moto 2 Going to start soon

Practice Laps under way

Posted by: Ralph

$100 ATVRiders.com holeshot award goes to Dustin Wimmer.

Posted by: Ralph

Gust in 4th

Posted by: Ralph

Wimmer running smooth upfront.

Posted by: Ralph

hard to hear

4. Byrd
5. Gust
6. Lawson
7. Brown

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Byrd up to 3rd. Natalie working his way up from the back.

Posted by: Ralph

Little in 5th. I believe Wienen passed Wimmer for 1st.

Posted by: Ralph

Chad Wienen pulling fastest lap times. Natalie in 11th.

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Gust Closing the gap on Byrd in 3rd. Wimmer in 2nd. Wienen in 1st.

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Lawson behind Gust?

Natalie out again with motor problems.

Posted by: Ralph

Lawson hot on Gusts' trail

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Byrd getting closing in on Wimmer trying to take 2nd place.

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Byrd Takes Wimmer for 2nd place.

Wienen far in the lead.

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Lawson running hard trying to pick off Wimmer for 3rd place.

Wienen is far out of Byrds sight.

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1. Chad Wienen
2. Joe Byrd
3. Dustin Wimmer
4. Jeremy Lawson
5. Doug Gust
6. Pat Brown
7. Keith Little
8. Schumaker
9. ?
10. Rocco Arno Jr.

2 laps to go.

Posted by: Ralph

White Flag

Posted by: Ralph

Lawson Still not able to get around Wimmer for 2nd Place

Wienen Crashed/Out???

Posted by: Ralph

Trying to confirm exactly what happend.

Byrd takes overall.

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Moto 2:

1. Byrd
2. Wimmer
3. Lawson

Posted by: Cuttinkid

what happened to wienen???

Posted by: ATPRacing36

According to another site, he had another mechanical failure.

Posted by: CaliQuadRcr

wienen's motor broke

Posted by: Cuttinkid

on the last lap????

Posted by: ATPRacing36

De Ja Vu......

Posted by: MET

Ralphy;

Thanks for posting the results for us!

Natalie's moto 1 DNF was apparently due to a stator failure! Not sure what happaned in moto 2?

Posted by: Cuttinkid

And natalie worrying about his motor again???
got out of the race???

Posted by: Ralph

quote:
Originally posted by Cuttinkid
on the last lap????

Looks like it. He had a very large lead and just disappeared.

Posted by: hoser 400ex

again?? that really sucks for him.

Posted by: Ralph

OVERALL:

1. Joe Byrd
2. Jeremy Lawson
3. Dustin Wimmer

Posted by: Cuttinkid

yea, that sucks, i was riding with him at three palms in conroe texas two weekends ago and i could tell he was riding fast!!!!

Posted by: Ralph

quote:
Originally posted by MET
Ralphy;

Thanks for posting the results for us!

Natalie's moto 1 DNF was apparently due to a stator failure! Not sure what happaned in moto 2?

No Problem

Not sure what happend to Natalies motor in Moto 2.

I will try to find out how the rest of the field finished asap.

Posted by: Cuttinkid

im afraid for my motor cuz i get it done at the same place as Natalie...jkjk. its all good!!!

Posted by: Cuttinkid

thanks for the updates!!!!!

Posted by: Trevino36

not so funny cuttinkid.... RAGE builds the best motors and Natalie rides just a bit harder than you.

Posted by: JDMXKID

No what sucks is Wienen leading both second motos in the last two rounds and DNF because of mechanical problems. &&& not just winning, but wayyy out front! LoL

Now that sucks!

Posted by: Ralph

quote:
Originally posted by JDMXKID
No what sucks is Wienen leading both second motos in the last two rounds and DNF because of mechanical problems. &&& not just winning, but wayyy out front! LoL

Now that sucks!

I see him becoming a big name next year. This year hes showing he can do it. Next year he will get the support to do it.

Posted by: Ralph

Moto 2:

1. Joe Byrd
2. Dustin Wimmer
3. Jeremy Lawson
4. Doug Gust
5. Pat Brown

Overall:

1. Joe Byrd
2. Jeremy Lawson
3. Dustin Wimmer
4. Doug Gust
5. Pat Brown

Posted by: Ralph

Chad Wienen Cracked his Case in Moto 2

Posted by: crazyaboutlsu

what happend to Little in the 1st moto?

Posted by: Gray33

dude what stations has coverage over quad racing!

Posted by: wolfpack91

I wasn't there, was the weather bad there or what? By the results, the turn out was CRAP!!

Posted by: yogi

dang chad needs to get a new motor builder,race all the wpsa's & he might be champ. sound like whoever builds chad's & natalies motors needs to give it up.

Posted by: bbrad mulvey

quote:
Originally posted by wolfpack91
I wasn't there, was the weather bad there or what? By the results, the turn out was CRAP!!

Ya the weather is calling for severe WPSA front coming in and everybody is effected

Posted by: gona440

wienen was out in front by about 8-10 seconds and halfway threw the last lap he knew his motor was about to go and rolled the jumps crusing to the finish and before the last turn maybe 100 yards from the finish it blew up

also the pass he made on wimmer was awsome he was trippling into the whoops/ rythem section and went by wimmer like he wasnt even moving

Posted by: LTR450_#67

I don't think Natalie or Wienen need a different builder....they already have one of the best. Them 2 guys are just having some tough luck right now and that's how it goes sometimes......Remember JONES #2 last year???? He had bad luck for his first 4 races then came back to be 2nd in points until his unfortunate happening.... The tough luck for Wienen is just that...tough luck! He and Natalie are just gonna have to put thier heads down and do what they do best....RACE!

later

Posted by: JDMXKID

I can't wait for the first round of the WPSA.

Posted by: sjl

Wow. Race was great! Chad was really moving. He went over in the first moto jumped up and still moved back up to third! He was flying in the 2nd moto untill the case broke and all the fluid leaked out. He is the one to watch this year! The way he went thru all those new whoops was exciting to watch!

Posted by: dodgepower

Ya the weather was bad(thursday and friday) had i not got the truck and trailer stuck thursday nite i would have probably left too thinking this aint gonna happen............

Posted by: rebelbanshee

seems like 4-stroke roulette is the name of the game

lots of engine problems this year. Oh well this is just practice for the WPSA..well except for byrd

Posted by: wolfpack91

You know, uless something changes drastically, Joe isn't even going to have to show up for tha last couple races of the year. There isn't going to be anyone to race with and honestly that is SAD! As a racer, I wouldn't think that would NOT be any fun for him either. Everyone has to admit, Joe is on it also. He could race a 300EX and still win the championship once the WPSA series starts up. Unless Pat Brown desides to ride something other than that pile he's on now. A differnt color would do him good, ANY color other than the one he's on. To be honest, I don't get it either, because Bill Ballace can pound the pi$$ out of his for 2 1/2 hours with no problems.
Joe, please race the WPSA series. Other wise your summer is going to be really dull!

Posted by: LTR450_#67

C'mon guys there are what.....11 races left. Anything is possible....
Yeah I know a lot of them racers are going to switch to the WPSA but at the same time they will run both GNC and WPSA unless the dates are the same for some races.
I don't think they build the X-country racer engines up as much as they do MX engines...I could be wrong about that too!

just let the season unfold guys......

later
Aaron

Posted by: JDMXKID

I wouldn't count Jeremy Lawson out of the chase for the championship for GNC!

Posted by: wolfpack91

Yeh Jeremy is a good choice also, I just thought that Joe and Pat were the only 2 that were committed to the GNC series. I also understand that they are being paid to race the GNC's also. As a racer, I would want some compatition is all I'm saying.

Being from Illinois though, I've got to root for Chad no matter what series he races.

Posted by: Cuttinkid

Weinen and Natalie's motors are great motors and the builders are awsome, they are just having some bad luck right now...they just ride too fast for the motors to handle!!!!!

Posted by: JDMXKID

quote:
Originally posted by Cuttinkid
Weinen and Natalie's motors are great motors and the builders are awsome, they are just having some bad luck right now...they just ride too fast for the motors to handle!!!!!

So where does that put all the other Pros and their engine builders?

Posted by: yogi

quote:
Originally posted by LTR450_#67
I don't think Natalie or Wienen need a different builder....they already have one of the best. Them 2 guys are just having some tough luck right now and that's how it goes sometimes......Remember JONES #2 last year???? He had bad luck for his first 4 races then came back to be 2nd in points until his unfortunate happening.... The tough luck for Wienen is just that...tough luck! He and Natalie are just gonna have to put thier heads down and do what they do best....RACE!

later

so what do you think they have been doin? they always put their heads down & race. you have a line, build tha crap outa a motor they wont hold up. period. build one fast & reliable. not a 65 hp time bomb. if you say chad has not put his head down & raced your an idiot. watchin him this year is kinda like watchin james stewart. same level in my book.

Posted by: LTR450_#67

Yogi - take a chill pill.....I didn't say that Chad isn't riding hard enough. I just simply meant he needs to keep coming back at it hard. As for the motor building... I think it's a fluke for now.

But really chill out.

Posted by: esr250r86

Dang, wienen would be so fast but like others said he is always having mechanical failures and on the last lap? Come on, maybe he will learn from these mistakes and get a good engine builder who makes power and reliability for at least one moto.

Posted by: sped247

guys chad isnt on his new bikes yet. i just had that confirmed. so chill pill it. all you na sayers will have to zip it when the new ones put him on the podium race after race, first wpsa we will see what happens.

Posted by: Blindkaeta

I just heard a rumor that Weinen let Rage go as his engine builder. If so he is sure to win some races this year. It sucks for him at the last two events. Imagine leading two motos and having back to back engine's let go. That must really suck. Has anybody else had these problems this year? Oh that's right John had the same thing happen also. I think somebody needs to go back to the drawing board.

Posted by: Ralph

For all the people talking out of ther as ses about rage motors. here is what the guy actualy building them says.

PLEASE READ AROUND BEFORE YOU MAKE DUMB POSTS.

quote:
Originally posted by KingRage12
I dont do the net much anymore because of the time preparing for the upcoming season. My wife told me about the thread and I thought I could bring some inquiring minds up to speed on whats going on with big weens....

Chad has been here for the past three months training here and testing combinations. We know what the engine case problem is, and we are working on it. The problem is Chad is just plain and simple riding past the bikes capabilities. The case cracking is coming from the frame flexing. It either breaks on the left or the right just like an eggshell. I have addressed the problem with Mike Walsh, Wayne Meridian of PEP and some of the others in the industry to get some help, just had no luck. No worries, we will have a hand on it before the season starts. As far as Natalie goes, he was unable to come down and test his engines this year so we have been using the GNCs for testing to see how much we can get away with this year. Both John and Chad have been racing on there practice bikes and we will have new ones for the WPSAs so by then I will have the bugs worked out of the combos. Believe me when I say this, I want to win just as bad as the riders so I will be doing everything I can to make it happen for them.
Hopefully we will have some luck on our side.

See ya at the races. Dee

Posted by: sjl

Over a thousand pictures from the race are up in the gallery at www.jandjracing.com. If you enjoy them stop by the forum and say Thanks to Judy. She was out all day both Sat. & Sun. taking pictures. Check'em out, you might see yourself!

Go Rage!!!

Posted by: LTR450_#67

GO RAGE! GO CHAD!!! Kick some *****. I'd like to see team Zook win since I own one but ever since I watched Chad ride here at the local track where I race, I have been a big fan. He pulled away from the A class field make them look pitaful. I have never been to a national or WPSA YET, but seeing the way Chad put the smack down was awesome. I am a big fan of all the riders but like all of us we have our favorites and Chad is one of them.

later

Posted by: dodgepower

SJL

Thanks for that link............

Posted by: fast426

like the above post says, chad was having problems from the start of rage building his motors. so it isn't so much bad luck as a problem that hasn't yet been addressed properly.

Posted by: TrapZ400

RaptorGzz awesome pics and vids!

Posted by: 05Z400rdr

quote:
Originally posted by fast426
like the above post says, chad was having problems from the start of rage building his motors. so it isn't so much bad luck as a problem that hasn't yet been addressed properly.

good thing he's going with Suzuki!

Posted by: KingRage12

Just like Dee said previously we are working out the bugs so to speak. BlindKaeta, here you are again you seem to be bashing us on 3 websites now. As usual you do not know what you are talking about. Chad finished I believe 3rd at alabama, he won the 2nd moto, and crashed the first, I don't think but I am not sure but was not a motor problem. In Glen Helen, he finished the first moto, the pit crew did not like the way the motor was running so the did an engine swap, they zip stripped the electrical wires to a bracket on the frame which broke off pulling the coil wire loose, causing the motor to die. In texas he broke the cases which then allowed the oil to leak out then I believe the motor locked up. He did NOT have hugh power that has been so wrongly reported. As a matter of fact he came to us with broken cases so take it for what it is worth. Try getting all the facts before you start bashing. Thanks for your interest though. Michele

Go Chad!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: LTR450_#67

Wow talk about beating an already dead horse. Not talking about you Rage, but the others you are confronting.

Go Chad!

Posted by: Ralph

quote:
Originally posted by KingRage12
Just like Dee said previously we are working out the bugs so to speak. BlindKaeta, here you are again you seem to be bashing us on 3 websites now. As usual you do not know what you are talking about. Chad finished I believe 3rd at alabama, he won the 2nd moto, and crashed the first, I don't think but I am not sure but was not a motor problem. In Glen Helen, he finished the first moto, the pit crew did not like the way the motor was running so the did an engine swap, they zip stripped the electrical wires to a bracket on the frame which broke off pulling the coil wire loose, causing the motor to die. In texas he broke the cases which then allowed the oil to leak out then I believe the motor locked up. He did NOT have hugh power that has been so wrongly reported. As a matter of fact he came to us with broken cases so take it for what it is worth. Try getting all the facts before you start bashing. Thanks for your interest though. Michele

Go Chad!!!!!!!!!!

Are you guys gonna be building his suzuki motors????

Im assuming no?

Posted by: sammy5x

With all the petty bashing, personal attacks, and ignorant posting by kids and uneducated adults, it is no wonder the true professionals do not want to post on this site.

Posted by: Pappy

quote:
Originally posted by sammy5x
With all the petty bashing, personal attacks, and ignorant posting by kids and uneducated adults, it is no wonder the true professionals do not want to post on this site.

those of which you speak are called "fans".....they have opinion, and most of the time are either misinformed or "fans" of a competing racer.

my advice, get used to this, as the sport grows so will the banter. and if the "pro's" dont wish to participate then thats fine, you wont find tony stewart or jeff gordon and their mechanics online nightly defending everyone who says they suck.