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2007 ATVA MX Nationals Round #2 - Glen Helen - Live Coverage
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San Bernardino, CA - The second round of the ATVA MX Nationals is underway in sunny California, and unlike the past couple of years in February, the weather is picture perfect this March with a light breeze and comfortable temperatures.

The track is a monster with three huge hill climbs and the lap times are running nearly 3 minutes long, which will mean for an only 8 lap Pro race, but there will be plenty of opportunities to pass on this wide open track in sections.

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The only bad news is the poor turnout for the race with only about 275 entries with just 15 entries in the Pro Class.

Kawasaki Team Green's Jason Luburugh and Josh Creamer are among the 15 Pros as they debut the KFX450R at Glen Helen

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#8 Jason Luburgh

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After watching round one, #53 Kory Ellis is geared up for round two on his new Suzuki LTR450, and he appears to have the track dialed in for today's race.

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Live Coverage of the Pro racing action will begin around 3PM Eastern and again at 6PM Eastern

Posted by: tldPREDATORboy

go natalie!!!!!!or gust,but mostly natalie!!

Posted by: esr250r86

Go digger doug gust.

Posted by: 04exking

Go Wienen!!!

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Hot laps underway

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Playing of the National Anthem and Prayer

Posted by: motox450r

rich get that pc fired up lol

Posted by: richtsmeier

i am

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Moto one Atvriders.com holeshot award goes to Joe Byrd

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Lawson
Ellis

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Lawson
Ellis all over Lawson

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Ellis
Lawson

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Ellis
Lawson
Natalie
Wimmer

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Ellis
Lawson
Natalie
Wimmer
Little
Wienen
Brown

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Ellis
Lawson

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Ellis

Posted by: LT80

GO Natalie!

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Ellis
Wimmer
Lawson

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Ellis
Wimmer

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Ellis
Wimmer
Lawson
Little

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd with Natalie all over him

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Ellis
Wimmer
Lawson
Little
Brown
Wienen

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Halfway point

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Ellis
Wimmer
Lawson

Posted by: atvracinextra

Weres Digger?????

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Ellis
Wimmer
Lawson
Little
Brown
Wienen
??
Creamer

Posted by: baldwinmx450r

update on the two kawi boys if possable.

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Ellis
Wimmer
Lawson
Wienen
Little
Brown

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Ellis
Lawson

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Ellis
Lawson
Wienen

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Ellis

Posted by: Quad12

Go Wienen!!!

Posted by: motox450r

chad's charging

Posted by: esr250r86

wheres digger?

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Ellis
Wimmer
Wienen
Lawson
Brown
Creamer
Gust in 10th

Posted by: 04exking

More importantly where is weinen

Posted by: LT80

I should just say thanks for the reporting

Posted by: 04exking

Is K.C Mckillip racing?

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Ellis
Wimmer
Wienen

Posted by: esr250r86

quote:
Originally posted by LT80
With all do respect and appreciation, I like knowing who's up front, but some info on the rest of the pack wuld be great.

yeah that would be nice.

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

*Byrd
Natalie
Ellis

White flag coming up

Posted by: motox450r

honda, suzuki rules

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Ellis
Wimmer
Wienen
Lawson
Little
Brown
Gust
Creamer

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd with Natalie closing in again

Posted by: 04exking

Where is K.C. Mckillip?

Posted by: LT80

10th for KAW. not bad for a first showing IMO.

Posted by: motox450r

come on natalie

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd 5 quad lengths
Natalie

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Top 3 moto 1
Byrd takes the win
Natalie
Ellis

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Moto one

Joe Byrd
John Natalie
Kory Ellis
Dustin Wimmer
Chad Wienen
Jeremy Lawson
Keith Little
Pat Brown
Doug Gust
Josh Creamer
Dustin Nelson

Posted by: sjl

Thanks for the coverage!

Posted by: LT80

Ellis in 3rd. GREAT!! He suffered with that Yam way too long for a rider of his quality IMO.
Thanks again J&M.

Posted by: esr250r86

Awesome coverage. Wish I was there.

Posted by: motox450r

poor yamaha! those things are pitiful.

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Be back at 6pm eastern 5pm central for moto two. BTW I'm just listening to a radio so I can only report on what I hear. Thanks

Wienen had some of the fastest lap times

Posted by: motox450r

it's chad what did you expect.

Posted by: #8trx450r

quote:
Originally posted by motox450r
it's chad what did you expect.

And he has Rage ATV Racing power under him ;-)

Posted by: motox450r

he could run rich's baldwin and still whip some butt.

Posted by: FHKracingZ

richs baldwins are quick but wont hold a candle to his bikes now.. he ran baldwin last year.

Posted by: STEVENJANNA

quote:
Originally posted by motox450r
poor yamaha! those things are pitiful.

That's real easy to say now, but when they were the only ones of the big 4 to step back into the factory support, they were the greatest right? Or how about when they were the only "factory" race bike on the market of the big 4 and everyone was racing them. Just stop with the Hypocrasy and let Yamaha come out with something better (that goes for you to Jack

)

Posted by: motox450r

it isn't all about the motor, it's the person operating. it's not a bad thing to have a top of line motor either. lol

Posted by: pitmomts

Chad is wicked fast this year, and will likely be on top! We all know Natalie is the "Ironman" and will be on top, too. Those Rage ATV engines - again, wicked fast.

Thanks so much for the live coverage! Wish we were there, but even reading it is exciting!

Posted by: motox450r

it's real easy to be on top when your the only thing out there. i have nothing against yamaha. just don't sit on your butt when the competition fly's by. so don't let a few words get rise out of your levis. remember talk is cheap. sorry if i struck a nerve.

Posted by: 400grl

The YFZ was the first of the bad***** 450's to come out and whoop butt for a while......it's 3 1/2 years old.....I have no doubt Yamaha has spent this time coming up with it's predecessor....and it will also kick butt.

I personally wish it wasn't all about who built who's engine, but who can ride what every normal person has to ride (without buying a new engine every moto)....oh well.....

Back on topic - GO NATALIE!!! Ellis SHOULD do well on his home track......Glen Helen is all about corner speed and picking the good lines through the rough stuff......definately looks like Ellis is enjoying his Suzuki!

Can't wait till moto 2!!!

Posted by: LTR450_#67

Yeah I Ellis is doing pretty well on them stock a-arms..lol, but yeah this is pretty much Kory's track so it is kind of expected.....He's one of my fav's. The Kawi's look like they might need some more fine tuning. Chad has been working his tail off A LOT in the off-season so I'm rooting for him. Honda is REALLY looking at him since Alabama..... C'mon GUST it's not time for you to burn out yet, I know you got some more wood to add to the fire!!!

MOTO 2?????

Posted by: JDMXKID

Just some of my thoughts...

Not trying to put anybody down here, keep that in mind. But Wienen losing the weight that he did helps on a motor. Regardless who is building it. Baldwin has a great motor, Rage has a great motor, and many others as well. Motor is important, but ya'll forget that the rider has a lot to do with it. Not only have a quad that is up to the challenge, but a rider with the speed, knowledge, and endurance.

Way to go to ATP for Lawson getting 2nd in the holeshot!

Something a friend of mine told me last night, "When a rider does poorly, it is blamed on the motor not having enough power. When a rider does great, it is then the rider." We are contradicting ourselves there!

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Moto 1
Byrd
Natalie
Ellis
Wimmer
Wienen
Lawson
Little
Brown
Gust
Creamer
Nelson
Goodman
Shumaker
Luburgh
Traupen

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Moto 2 hot laps underway

Posted by: LT80

Regardless who is building it. Baldwin has a great motor, Rage has a great motor, and many others as well. Motor is important, but ya'll forget that the rider has a lot to do with it.

100% correct. Angela has won on 4 different motor builders.

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Moto 2 Atvriders.com holeshot award goes to Joe Byrd but Natalie takes the lead.

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Natalie
Byrd

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Natalie
Byrd
Little
Gust

Posted by: LT80

woot!

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Natalie
Byrd
Little

Posted by: JDMXKID

Where is Wienen and Lawson?

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Little

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Natalie
Little
Wienen ??

Ellis in 15th

Posted by: BlackTrx440ex

how is creamer doing?

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd extending lead

Byrd
Wienen
Natalie
Little

Posted by: JDMXKID

WIENEN IN 4TH? I'M ABOUT TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK!

Posted by: hsr

wow. wienen is for real

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Wienen
Natalie

Posted by: Blindkaeta

Where's Lawson?

Posted by: JDMXKID

WIENEN IN 2ND?! DUDE, CAN HE CATCH BYRD. HE CAN DO IT!

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Wienen
Natalie
Little
Gust

Posted by: atvracinextra

Wienen passes byrd

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Wienen
Byrd
Natalie
Gust
Little
Wimmer
Nelson
Lawson
Brown

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Wienen
Byrd
Natalie

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Wienen
Byrd
Natalie
Little
Gust

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd is back out front
Natalie

Posted by: Blindkaeta

Top ten if possible???

Posted by: JDMXKID

WHAT HAPPENED TO WIENEN!?

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Wienen out not sure what happened

Posted by: atvracinextra

Byrd
Natalie
Gust
Wimmer
Little
Nelson
Lawson

Posted by: ATPRacing36

What happened to Wienen? Where's Lawson?

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Gust
Natalie

Wimmer
Nelson
Little
Lawson
Brown
Goodman
Ellis

2 laps to go

Posted by: atvracinextra

Wienen pushing machine to finish line

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Wienen pushing his quad

Byrd
Gust
Natalie
Wimmer
Nelson

Posted by: STEVENJANNA

quote:
Originally posted by Johnny & Monica
Wienen out not sure what happened

Probably that wicked fast Rage Motor

Posted by: JDMXKID

CAN SOMEBODY FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO WIENEN. NOBODY IS ANSWERING THEIR PHONES IN CALI!!! >(

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Byrd
Gust
Natalie

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

white flag

Posted by: LT80

"Probably that wicked fast Rage Motor"
That is funny.

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Creamer in 10th

Posted by: Blindkaeta

Poor weinen, First Natalie now Weinen. I guess the clay came off the piston and shot out the great big hole they call an exhaust.

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Moto 2
Joe Byrd
Gust
Natalie
Nelson

Overall
Joe Byrd
John Natalie
Doug Gust

Posted by: JDMXKID

DAMN IT! POOR WIENEN!

Posted by: #8trx450r

quote:
Originally posted by Blindkaeta
Poor weinen, First Natalie now Weinen. I guess the clay came off the piston and shot out the great big hole they call an exhaust.

Yeah that wonderful Vortex ignition did cost him a good finish in AL, and now it must again be a Rage issue huh?

Get a clue kid.

All these builders in the Pro level make serious power and push it to the edge so dont be so quick to call foul on a builder, wait until you DO know what is going on.

Posted by: LT80

I'm guessing
Byrd-Natalie-Little?

Posted by: MET

Anybody know why the results are so different at atvmotocross.com by Trackside scoring??

Whats all the Rage bashing for??

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Natalie and Gust got hooked up at the end and just pulled off their finishes

Posted by: atvracinextra

I think it was Natalie and wimmer that got hung up together not gust.

Posted by: Blindkaeta

"Yeah that wonderful Vortex ignition did cost him a good finish in AL, and now it must again be a Rage issue huh?

Get a clue kid.

All these builders in the Pro level make serious power and push it to the edge so dont be so quick to call foul on a builder, wait until you DO know what is going on."

I have more of a clue than you think pal.

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Ya these results except for the top 3 overall are unofficial. There was alot of confusion at the end of the race.

Posted by: JDMXKID

Oh stop it people!

Has anybody found out what exactly happened to Wienen. Again nobody is answering their phone. >(

Posted by: atvracinextra

Moto 2

Byrd
Gust
Natalie
Nelson
Lawson
Wimmer
Brown
Ellis
Creamer

If I added right overall should be\
Byrd
Natalie
Gust
Wimmer
Ellis
Lawson

Not offical!!!!!

Posted by: Blindkaeta

Thanks for the great reports!!!

Posted by: #8trx450r

quote:
Originally posted by Blindkaeta

I have more of a clue than you think pal.

Can't tell.

Again, thanks for the coverage ATVTriders it is greatly appreciated

Posted by: Johnny & Monica

Overall

Joe Byrd
John Natalie
Doug Gust

Posted by: LT80

Great reporting! Thanks again.
I agree with the motors being on the edge statement.
It seems they all mey have had a failure today.
Play nice boys.

Posted by: JDMXKID

Well, I was told right before the moto they realized Wienen had a cracked head. So they changed that out right before the moto. And obviously still ran into some sort of mechanical problem. They aren't sure yet what happened. So in time.

Posted by: ATPRacing36

Official overall top 10?

Posted by: motox450r

chad was without his main man rich. otherwise it could have been a different story. rich will be there for wpsa.

Posted by: Blindkaeta

quote:
Well, I was told right before the moto they realized Wienen had a cracked head. So they changed that out right before the moto. And obviously still ran into some sort of mechanical problem. They aren't sure yet what happened. So in time.

Thats what happens when you run the compression ratio of a powerstoke deisel!!!

Posted by: Blindkaeta

Thats sucks for Chad. Sounds like he was on the way to another moto win.

Posted by: motox450r

looks like honda and suzuki will rule this year, but not without problems. i wouldn't be throwing my money around on the kawi, it's to soon.

Posted by: motox450r

chad will be fine. i don't think he's running his new bikes until the first wpsa and then he will switch out every two races to a new one.

Posted by: 400grl

Go Nelson!!! Glad to see him almost on the podium with such fast company.......!

Posted by: pitmomts

Dang, what a bummer about Chad! Hope the talk about him didn't jinx it...

We watched him practice last weekend (see a few photos at http://www.jandjracing.com/gallery/v/3-17-07/ ) along with Natalie, Goodman and Greg Gee, and Chad was so fast, the way he charged corners, flew around the track, unbelievably fast! His wins are certainly coming.

Again, excellent coverage. Thanks so much for taking the time!

And by the way, Rage still RULES!

Posted by: OutlawEX

That trompen fool needs to enter the B class and stick to his own level for his safety and others.

Posted by: motox450r

i'm really glad to see that there is a " GREAT BLUE HOPE" out there. especially since they are investing such a load green backs. go nelson.

Posted by: 400grl

quote:
Originally posted by motox450r
i'm really glad to see that there is a " GREAT BLUE HOPE" out there. especially since they are investing such a load green backs. go nelson.

I'd also love to see some blue on the podium!!

Posted by: cool 300ex

Sweet finally some KFX450R pics.

Posted by: calds650

Was there a National was this weekend at Glean Helen? I did see some great racing but not mainly riders. Vender�s row was a joke. I saw more photographers that safety people on the track. The turn out what turn out may be one or two hundred that paid for the day. The announcers could only see about � of the track and were boring.

Posted by: FHKracingZ

Chad is talking with different factorys still for this year so its not sure if he will be on a diff bike yet. he bought 3 new 05's before heading down to texas and 3 spare motors.

Posted by: 3-D Racing Dad

quote:
Originally posted by calds650
Was there a National was this weekend at Glean Helen? I did see some great racing but not mainly riders. Vender�s row was a joke. I saw more photographers that safety people on the track. The turn out what turn out may be one or two hundred that paid for the day. The announcers could only see about � of the track and were boring.

I dont know, but isnt it a possibility that most riders are from the eastern side of the country and dont want to make the run over to California because of the time needed off of work and the distance to drive? And the vendors are the same way?

Posted by: LT80

"I dont know, but isnt it a possibility that most riders are from the eastern side of the country and dont want to make the run over to California because of the time needed off of work and the distance to drive? And the vendors are the same way?"

NO! We have no reason to travel 3000 miles to race the 2nd rated ATVA circiut.
Most all are going WPSA thus being forced to drive to Cali is not required now. I say forced because anyone going for points needs to be at the races, especially the beginning of the season.
The vendors were chased away with unreasonable charges for the right to vend.

Posted by: LT80

I have a question for all you bench racers.

Greg Gee raced pro last year. This year he's racing pro-am (which is fine) but he's also racing 16-24. I thought that would be a no-no??
Nothing against Mr.Gee, he's a good guy.

Posted by: LTR450_#67

quote:
Originally posted by FHKracingZ
Chad is talking with different factorys still for this year so its not sure if he will be on a diff bike yet. he bought 3 new 05's before heading down to texas and 3 spare motors.

Yeah my friend Ryan Sindt of Sindt Motors sold him that stuff. Actually from what Ryan told me, Chad told him that Honda gave him a $10k credit on Honda parts. I highly doubt Chad will go back to a Yammy. I think he should stay on the Black#44 for now. I have a feeling Chad is going to be in the top 3 in the end.....

Ride on peeps...........

Posted by: JDMXKID

Some of ya'll people talk to much about people's personal lives.

Let's just wish all the Pro's good luck. And we'll see what happens at the end of the year.

Posted by: calds650

LT80 I due agree with you that it is second rate run operation. The bleacher were may be 1/2 full more like 1/3, last year they were 3/4 to full. This is the National Champion and they should travel across the nation. There should be a race up in the North West and in the Rocky Mountains area too. Then it would be a National Champion not a East Coast Champion

Posted by: neverliftwienen

Hey everyone this weekend was full of ups and downs let me tell ya but that second moto I had the ground wire to the coil break off that second moto. Engine was running great try not to jump to conclusion that when a bike stops that the engine has failed that wasn't the case. Well just want to say thanks to all my fans and sponsors and the people who helped swap the engine 20 minutes before the second moto! Couldn't so it without you guys, I will be stepping it up! Determined to be on the top! Thanks again everybody.

Later
Chad Wienen

Posted by: 400grl

Congrats to an amazing run in the second moto!!!!! Your times were crazy!!! Sorry to see you got sidelined with a coil issue......but it will be fun to watch you this season!! Go and stir it all up!

Posted by: STEVENJANNA

quote:
Originally posted by neverliftwienen
Hey everyone this weekend was full of ups and downs let me tell ya but that second moto I had the ground wire to the coil break off that second moto. Engine was running great try not to jump to conclusion that when a bike stops that the engine has failed that wasn't the case. Well just want to say thanks to all my fans and sponsors and the people who helped swap the engine 20 minutes before the second moto! Couldn't so it without you guys, I will be stepping it up! Determined to be on the top! Thanks again everybody.

Later
Chad Wienen

I was poking fun with my motor comment at the guys getting all excited about engine builders. Good job last weekend. You and Tony Stewart had the same luck it looks like.

Posted by: ckasper18

Great job to everyone racing hope to see everyone soon at the WPSA races

Posted by: LTR450_#67

GIT
R
DONE
WIENEN #44!!!!

Posted by: Yamahauler_04

quote:
Originally posted by neverliftwienen
Hey everyone this weekend was full of ups and downs let me tell ya but that second moto I had the ground wire to the coil break off that second moto. Engine was running great try not to jump to conclusion that when a bike stops that the engine has failed that wasn't the case. Well just want to say thanks to all my fans and sponsors and the people who helped swap the engine 20 minutes before the second moto! Couldn't so it without you guys, I will be stepping it up! Determined to be on the top! Thanks again everybody.

Later
Chad Wienen

I was there watching this weekend. You were on fire.

Keep up the hard charging.

Posted by: 3-D Racing Dad

quote:
Originally posted by neverliftwienen
Hey everyone this weekend was full of ups and downs let me tell ya but that second moto I had the ground wire to the coil break off that second moto. Engine was running great try not to jump to conclusion that when a bike stops that the engine has failed that wasn't the case. Well just want to say thanks to all my fans and sponsors and the people who helped swap the engine 20 minutes before the second moto! Couldn't so it without you guys, I will be stepping it up! Determined to be on the top! Thanks again everybody.

Later
Chad Wienen

Glad to see the Pro's getting on here and talking with the fans. Keep it up Chad you have a couple of ILLINOIS boys rootin for ya. Keep up the Awsome piloting.

Posted by: QCquad83

keep up the awsome work chad. you deff are working harder than everyone out there and it shows. if your ever back in the QC area, Coal Valley or Muddy waters drop me a line i live 10 mins from both and its always awsome to watch u tear it up....i never got to see u quad that jump at Muddy waters but i heard all the pro A dirtbikers were pooping themselves when u were doing that and chasing them down in the whoops at coal valley. You will get the number one plate shortly. keep it up

Posted by: work2play

The complete results shows Gust having a 9-2 for 11 points and taking 3rd.

Wimmer had a 4-6 for 10 points and is listed 4th.

Shouldn't Wimmer be 3rd?

Posted by: reconmaster

keep charging hard chad we know you you'll have a #1 plate very soon

Posted by: LT80

work2play: They use the ama's pro scoring system.

Posted by: Quad18star

I just want to say Congrats to Greg Gee and Kris Boothby ... both Canadian boys . Boothby is a standup guy ... he's showed up at a few local races and is pretty fast .

I heard he's making his way to Oak Hill next .

Posted by: randyIL

Chad....your my hero !!!

It's great to see you running up front.

Keep it up and have fun.

Posted by: wolfpack91

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atvtommy
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it offical Joe Bird is a CHEATER
Did any body here anymore about Joe Byrd cheating at Glen Helen some one told me they fined him $2,500.00 for moving the course markers on the parade lap so he could cut the track?

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03-26-2007 07:28 PM

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No, I didnt here about this. How did he do it in practice or when he was walking the track? Someone must have seen him. I heard he cheated at mill creek or some rumor like that.

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03-26-2007 07:35 PM

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My best friend was standing there, he said Joe "the cheater" Bird passed the turn then turned around at the next turn and came back to take out the stake so he could cut the track.

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03-26-2007 07:42 PM

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He was protested.

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03-26-2007 08:43 PM

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He was not that far out front evryone else should of been able to take the same line he was not sticking up for him but lets wait for the final word from the ama pro official if he did cheat he should be punished not just a fine either

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The ama pro official did fine him for sure. I over heard some one in his pits talking about it when I was getting his autograph. I lost all of my respect for bird I use to look up to him but not now that he is a cheater.

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03-26-2007 09:00 PM

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Posted by: wolfpack91

This was on the "Riders" section under racing and are all of the posts from the subject.

So did all of this happen? If so LT80, you are going to have a hayday with this!

Posted by: jake385

First time I saw the new Kawi in action.... sure was slow.

Posted by: dodgepower

thats odd they were slow cause at the pell city race there were two in the stock class and both ran great. if i remember one was the winner.

Posted by: sped247

chad may be talking with alot companies, but talk is cheap and chad wants to run what he believes is going to give him the best shot at the number one plate. he has turned down alot already because he wants run what he believes gives him the best shot. i've seen one of his three new quads in person, i could probably tell you about 99% about it, but i was told not to. i'm not friends with chad personally, but do know somebody else. in my opinion he will be running his bikes this year. its plain to see that chad doesn't need millions of dollars to run with any of the big dogs. some people won't take free parts if they don't believe those parts will help them win. not many tho, most people will take anything for free. he passed on a free ride from golden west from what i understand. that is just my opinion fhkracingz.

Posted by: FHKracingZ

Chads bikes handle as good, are as fast, and are every bit of good as the factory bikes. dont forget that

Posted by: RIDERRED631

in the case of joe byrd he wasnt the only one doing that line there were alot of people taking it. he was just the only one that moved the stake so that he wouldn't run in to it or damage anything.

Posted by: daddio

I was on the hill above the corner that Byrd was cutting. Natallie was the only other rider jumping over the corner with Byrd. Everyone else was too far back to see their line.

Posted by: LT80

"If so LT80, you are going to have a hayday with this!"

Nope!

Posted by: wolfpack91

Lt80, I understand!

At the time I posted that, I had not seen or heard any of the reports.

Right, wrong of indifferent, he is going fast.