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Project: Frankenstein
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Posted by: Project300EX
I've asked quite a bit on here, but haven't really given much feedback. Well this is the thread for that. I've been working on the quad for a few months now, but money is tight so I'm getting parts as I get the money. The overview:
'01 300ex frame
'88 RM250 powervalve motor
400ex suspension
400ex plastic
Posted by: Project300EX
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Frame after being gussetted up. Also with stock 400ex arms and spindles.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0089.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0090.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0097.jpg
Posted by: Project300EX
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Gussetts
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0091.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0096.jpg
Posted by: Project300EX
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Front hubs and brake setup added (thanks to Pistonbone), as well as 400ex steering stem. Also undercoated the arms.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0130-2.jpg
Posted by: Project300EX
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Painted steering stem and partially painted the frame to see what it's going to look like.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0158.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0160.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0161.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0163.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0164.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0165.jpg
Posted by: Project300EX
That's pretty much where I stand now. I'm waiting on my '88 RM250 bottom end to come in. It was supposed to have been shipped Wednesday. I'm also waiting on some 450R bars from brandon34r, a set of 400ex wheels from 200xer, and a parts lot from ebay.
Here's the bottom end -
http://i19.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/77/90/9f5b_1.JPG
The parts lot has footpegs, handlebar clamps, swingarm pivot bolt, and a few other parts.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...20815970&rd=1,1
I'm sure you guys realize by now this is going to be a budget build. I figured I could build a pretty nice quad like I wanted cheaper than buying a quad and fixing that way. So far with everything listed in this thread I have $394. Let me know what you guys think.
Posted by: Project300EX
Also when the bottom end comes in I'm going to get it mocked up so I can get the frame fully painted. Then I'm going to get the frame in rolling form. Then rebuilding the motor. Lastly will be the plastics and left over stuff.
What do you guys think so far?
Posted by: elementryder
looks good i like the blue
Posted by: 300ex_#387
What color blue is that? I really like that color.
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by 300ex_#387
What color blue is that? I really like that color.
It's actually rattle can. I sprayed one coat of Krylon black. Then when it dried good I scuffed it up and sprayed Duplicolor Metalspeck blue over that.
Posted by: Kickstarts-suck
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Originally posted by Project300EX
It's actually rattle can. I sprayed one coat of Krylon black. Then when it dried good I scuffed it up and sprayed Duplicolor Metalspeck blue over that.
looks really good
Posted by: 2muchquad
The 88rm250 had a killer motor that year.Try and look for a pipe from a 86 or 87 rm 250,it will be a bit easier to modify to fit your frame than the "lowboy" style on the newer ones.i used to own a 87 rm250 myself
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by 2muchquad
The 88rm250 had a killer motor that year.Try and look for a pipe from a 86 or 87 rm 250,it will be a bit easier to modify to fit your frame than the "lowboy" style on the newer ones.i used to own a 87 rm250 myself
Thanks for the tip. I was going to go CR250 after talking to you about it, but then almost got screwed over on that one. So I found this on for a pretty good deal. I'm praying it will be here tommorrow, so I can get it fabbed up and get the frame fully painted.
Posted by: Project300EX
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I got my parts lot in, but still no motor. Also I made a mistake I said earlier the paint was metalspeck, but it's actually metalcast.
Steering stem with handlbar clamps.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0189.jpg
Painted rear brake rotor hub. It will dry darker like the frame, it was just wet when I took the pic.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0188.jpg
What's left of the parts lot, excluding the handlebar clamps and bolts. I have them soaking in laqcuer thinner to get all the old paint off. I'll probably leave it bare aluminum.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0190.jpg
Posted by: JIMFROMTEXCO
looks good that should be a ripper.. have you gotten the 400ex swinger on it yet?
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by JIMFROMTEXCO
looks good that should be a ripper.. have you gotten the 400ex swinger on it yet?
I sent money off saturday to carlock #33 for his '05 450R swingarm. Hopefully it will be here by the end of the week or early next week.
My bottom end is coming in today. I've been waiting by the door all day. I'm going my gf's house a little later and was planning on getting it mocked up before, but it looks like I'm going to have to wait until I get back to do it.
Posted by: lamonts 300ex
hey how good will 400ex fenders fit a 300ex i had a chance to get a whole set for 45$$$$
Posted by: Project300EX
Do a search. They'll fit with some modifications to the fender brackets. You can find some pics in the threads.
Posted by: Project300EX
I got the bottom end in. The side case was off of it and the kickstart assembly and gear for the powervalve was out of it. I think I got everything together right, but there was a bearing left over. I'm going to take it back apart and rebuild it after I get it mocked back up. I have run into a few things though. First if I center the pivot bolt mount up on the pivot bolt the sprocket shaft is sitting too far in for the chain guide. Can I make a spacer for the sprocket to make it line up? Also I am only able to go through three gears. I was thinking this is a four speed. I'm uploading pics now.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0197.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0198.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0199.jpg
Posted by: Project300EX
This is how it looks if I line up the sprocket shaft with the chain guide. Notice how it doesn't sit center on the pivot bolt. Can I just center it up on the pivot bolt and make a spacer for the sprocket? Also how wide are the mount parts for the 450R swingarm?
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0200.jpg
Posted by: Project300EX
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0202.jpg
Here's how the sprocket shaft lines up with the pivot mount centered up.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0204.jpg
Posted by: Project300EX
Here's the bearing I had left over.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0205.jpg
Posted by: Project300EX
I finally got the dimensions for the 450r swingarm, so I started making my motor mounts. Here's some more pics.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0206.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0207.jpg
Posted by: Project300EX
Here's the left side. I was getting tired, so I didn't start welding this one up. I just got it cut and bent how it needed to go.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0208.jpg
Posted by: Project300EX
And here's some of the shock tower I finished up last night.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0209.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0210.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0211.jpg
Posted by: Project300EX
Any opinions, advice, feedback, etc? 
Posted by: elementryder
yeh man looks like its comming along nicly
Posted by: Project300EX
I got the left side piece tacked up, but I'm about to go up to see my gf. So I'll weld it up good when I get back tonight. I'll hopefully get the bottom mounts fabbed up too.
Posted by: bwamos
I see that shifter causing you problems. You're gonna need to shift the motor about an inch to the left to get the sprockets to line up.. and that shifter is going to hit the frame.
I suppose you could clearance that gusset and reinforce that area up another way.
Posted by: Scro
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Originally posted by Project300EX
I got the left side piece tacked up, but I'm about to go up to see my gf. So I'll weld it up good when I get back tonight. I'll hopefully get the bottom mounts fabbed up too.
She can't wait?
Posted by: Tri-valleyracin
Project300EX
Put hard rubber inbetween the motor and the mounts so it will cut down on the vibrations. You can also get your crank balanced to cut down even more.
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by bwamos
I see that shifter causing you problems. You're gonna need to shift the motor about an inch to the left to get the sprockets to line up.. and that shifter is going to hit the frame.
I suppose you could clearance that gusset and reinforce that area up another way.
I've got the shifter slid where it just barely clears. I'll make a spacer for the sprocket to the get it to line up. It looks a lot closer than in that one pic. I'm up her at her house, but I'm going to work on it when I get home.
Posted by: Project300EX
I got the left side front mount welded up. The brackets made for one of the bottom mounts. I'll just get a long bolt and use small steel tubes to go between the brackets and the mount. I'll probably do something similar on the other bottom mount. Here's some more pics.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0214.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0215.jpg
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http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0217.jpg
Also here's a pick of how the sprocket shaft lines up now. I think it will be fine with a small spacer.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0218.jpg
Posted by: Kickstarts-suck
looks really nice. Are you going to paint the motor and the rest of the frame?
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by Kickstarts-suck
looks really nice. Are you going to paint the motor and the rest of the frame?
After I get everything welded and ground down on the frame it will be the same blue/purple color as the subframe portion. I'm going to do the swingarm and motor mounts black. The motor will be cleaned up after the rebuild and painted, but I still haven't decided which color. Here's the scheme I'm thinking about. I may paint the cases black and the cylinder/head something else.
Frame - blue/purple color in the pics
a-arms, swingarm, motor mounts, motor cases - black
plastic - yellow 400ex
cylinder, head - ?
Posted by: Kickstarts-suck
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Originally posted by Project300EX
After I get everything welded and ground down on the frame it will be the same blue/purple color as the subframe portion. I'm going to do the swingarm and motor mounts black. The motor will be cleaned up after the rebuild and painted, but I still haven't decided which color. Here's the scheme I'm thinking about. I may paint the cases black and the cylinder/head something else.
Frame - blue/purple color in the pics
a-arms, swingarm, motor mounts, motor cases - black
plastic - yellow 400ex
cylinder, head - ?
i don't think yellow plastics would look good but thats imo
yellow/blue 
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by Kickstarts-suck
i don't think yellow plastics would look good but thats imo
yellow/blue
The frame only looks blue in very bright light. It almost looks black normally, but has a very slight dark blue/purple tint. The closest pic to how it normally looks is at the bottom of the first page near the bottom. It's the one of the steering stem with the clamps on. It does have a tad more of a purple/dark blue tint though.
I'm going to use stock 400ex plastic because I love the 400ex plastic, but don't want to spend the cash for a custom color.
Posted by: JIMFROMTEXCO
the shock tower looks a little scary... what material did you use on it?
Posted by: Bill Fuller
Steering stem looks bent.
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by JIMFROMTEXCO
the shock tower looks a little scary... what material did you use on it?
Don't worry too much. The metal is about twice as thick as the original. It also comes back to the frame and the top and is welded to the tubs. I may put a little reinforcement on top of the mount parts though.
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by Bill Fuller
Steering stem looks bent.
It is very slightly bent straight back. Since it's that way I wasn't worried too much about it. If it had been bent to the left or right I would have tried to straighten it.
Posted by: 2muchquad
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Steering stem looks bent.
I hate it when clowns cant seem to keep their comments to themselves.
Looks good project 300ex.Did you have to use spacers to get the chain to line up?Your front motor mounts look good,you weld better than i do.You may be able to custom make your own shifter
to clear your frame.It looks like your well on your way,when you have to fab everything you would be surprised at how little you can get done in a whole afternoon in the garage...hehe thats the fun part though,you'll learn a lot.keep us posted
Posted by: Trevor
Thats not the motor your going to use is it? It looks a little rough but other than that it looks like a fun project.
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by 2muchquad
I hate it when clowns cant seem to keep their comments to themselves.
Looks good project 300ex.Did you have to use spacers to get the chain to line up?Your front motor mounts look good,you weld better than i do.You may be able to custom make your own shifter
to clear your frame.It looks like your well on your way,when you have to fab everything you would be surprised at how little you can get done in a whole afternoon in the garage...hehe thats the fun part though,you'll learn a lot.keep us posted
It's all good. I'm going to have to use a small spacer. I haven't got a sprocket yet to see how it sill line up, but I'm hoping it won't be any more than 3/8". I'll probably chop the shifter out and a little forward, but I want to wait until I get my left peg in so I can get it exactly how I want. Tell me about the time. I've put around 6 hours into just mocking up the motor mounts. I've got some good news on that though. I just finished up the last set of mounts. Here's some pics.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0219.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0220.jpg
I did my best to utilize all of the stock brackets, in case I happened to change the motor and part it out at some point. The only brackets I had to get rid of are the two back ones under the pivot bolt. Anyway, I'm about to go get the motor out, weld up the inside of the mounts, and paint everything. Also I forgot, does anyone know how wide the frame mount has to be for the 450R shock linkage?
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by Trevor
Thats not the motor your going to use is it? It looks a little rough but other than that it looks like a fun project.
Sure is. I'm going to rebuild it though. It will also be painted. The guy said it ran when he took it out, but it will need new bearings. I asked him which specific ones, but he hasn't got back to me yet.
Also yes those are drill bits holding the mounts up. I haven't got the bolts for them yet.
Posted by: Bill Fuller
Thanks for the fine comment 2muchquad
I hate it when people like you to try to start chit. I'm not bashing this project I was just pointing the stem out. I would think if the guy was able to mock up the engine then he wouldn't have any problem straightening out the stem. I posted so I would continue to get updates on this project not to argue.
~clown
Posted by: Project300EX
Eh. I don't have an acetylene torch to heat it up. Since it's bent back it doesn't really bother me. So it's cool.
Posted by: Aceman
Is the kicker going to clear the frame?
Posted by: Project300EX
I just got done painting most of the frame. I don't know if I got it all, because it's so hard to tell with that paint. So I'll have to wait until it dries and inspect it.
quote:
Originally posted by Aceman
Is the kicker going to clear the frame?
I don't know if the stock one will or not. I don't have one, so I'll have to get one and probably modify it a bit.
Posted by: Hondabeefast
project looks like its goin pretty smooth....nice job 
Posted by: atvridernc
Dang looks great man. That things gonna be awesome once you finish. That color blue is awesome.
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by atvridernc
Dang looks great man. That things gonna be awesome once you finish. That color blue is awesome.
Thanks. I'm pretty much stuck right now. I have to find another can of the blue paint before I can finish the frame and start putting stuff together. I'm also in process of getting a ported cylinder. I'll keep an update of that.
Posted by: Tri-valleyracin
i just remember that the RM's have head mounts are you goin to make one? the head stay isnt needed as much but helps with vibration and things of that nature. im building a 2 stroke hybrid my self but im using a 86 lt250r motor in a 400ex frame.
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by Tri-valleyracin
i just remember that the RM's have head mounts are you goin to make one? the head stay isnt needed as much but helps with vibration and things of that nature. im building a 2 stroke hybrid my self but im using a 86 lt250r motor in a 400ex frame.
I'll have to see when I get a cylinder and head.
Posted by: xrjamie
very nice project i don't think the yellow would be the best coulor but its your project i wouldn't mind doing one of these projects some day
but its looking good got any new pics?
Posted by: quadfamily
Cool project, looks good! I'm also curious about the kicktart lever though. I'll be following this build.
Posted by: Project300EX
Finished up the frame and started putting stuff back together. I know the frame looks dusty. It's where the paint got in the air, then dried and settled. It wipes right off, but I wasn't worried about it right now. I also changed my mind on the arms. I'm going to repaint them gloss black instead of flat black. Hopefully I'll have them installed tomorrow night.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0223.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0224.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0225.jpg
I also got wheels in.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0226.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0227.jpg
Posted by: Tri-valleyracin
looks good. you should invest in some aftermarket bars like tag or fly flex bars. it will cut down the vibration to your hands and make it a nice ride. my stering stem was so bent it would make it hard to turn and i had a welder cut the ends off and make a new one with my old but +3. its vary strong with a solid square rod in it and its a bit fater too. workes great for me but in 6'ft. ill try to get a better pic today.
Posted by: Project300EX
If I end up having problem with the stem I'll do something about at that time, but I think it will be fine. We'll see when I get it rolling.
I got my right side arms painted early today and got them put on tonight. I also sprayed the left side ones after. I'm about to go put another coat on them. Then I'm going to lift some and maybe they'll be dry enough to put on tonight.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0228.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0229.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0230.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0231.jpg
Posted by: Project300EX
I got the other side on, but I'm too tired to mess with pics. I also might be getting a ported cylinder. I'll know by tommorrow on that.
Posted by: 250rbadboy
looks realy good. if you use wd40 on all your rubber,break lines,air box,etc. they will look new.dont be afraid to use alot on the part your cleaning. just a thought for ya. and yes that is the same paint on our frame,but with clear imron on top.
Posted by: Project300EX
I'm definatly going to clean it up when I get most of it together. I figured if I detailed it now it would be just as dirty before I get it rolling anyway.
Here's some pics with both sides on. Also my 450R swingarm is supposed to be here tommorrow thanks to Carlock #33.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0232.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0233.jpg
Posted by: Project300EX
I know I said in the first post this is a budget based build. So I'm sure there are some people interested in what kind of money I'm laying down for this project. Well here's a complete list. The only things not mentioned are two 3/16" x 2" 36" pieces of steel, two 1lb spools of flux core welding wire, and the cans of paint; which all comes out to be roughly $60.
’02 300ex Frame - $92.63
’03 400ex a-arms/spindles – 61.50
’02 400ex steering stem – 22.49
300ex front hubs/brakes - 45
’88 RM250 bottom end – 65
400ex wheels – 70
250x parts lot – 23
’05 450R handlebars – 15
’05 450R swingarm – 45
Total: $439.62
Posted by: Project300EX
Got my swingarm in and on. I also picked up some black engine paint and painted my clutch cover.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0234.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0235.jpg
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http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0237.jpg
Posted by: 400exrapes
looks really good ive been looking at all of this for a few minutes im gonna watch it until your done im interested although i know like nothing now one day i want to do the same thing
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by 400exrapes
looks really good ive been looking at all of this for a few minutes im gonna watch it until your done im interested although i know like nothing now one day i want to do the same thing
Thanks man. It's a slow process since I'm doing it as I ge the cash. I've been trying to source a cylinder and everybody keeps wanting around $150 for ones that still need bored. It pisses me off since I could have bid a little more on one on ebay that was good and ported for less than $100. I wasn't at home when it ended and couldn't raise my bid.
Posted by: 400exrapes
sucks man keep looking on ebay and try this place like rocky mountain atv .com i didnt make it a url because sometimes they dont work when you click on it but search it on google idk if they will sell cylinders but everything they sell is the same top quality brand as all the other stores sell but for way cheaper and it will be new ill search it right now and put another post if they have one what kind of cylinder does it need to fit like the km 250 i think it was?
Posted by: Ryanwolfe911
Hey I just thought I'd let you know that if you decide to try to straighten your steering stem, DO NOT use a torch to heat up. You will weaken the metal and it will just bend again, most disastrously(don't ask me how I know) I would reccomend you cold bend it back into shape with a shop press. IT works rather well, and doesn't fatigue the metal at all. Looks like your project is coming along nicely. What did you do about the sprocet not lining up with the chain roller? I see that when the rear engine mount is centered ont he pivot bolt, that it is off to tleft by about 1/2 an inch. You might have to modify (grind away one side) of the space in the center of the swing arm, then make a spacer on the oppsoite side to compensate. I'm not sure though, I can't really tell unless I see it in person. I made a 300ex/CR500 Hybrid myself, but I moved the engine forward so I didn't have to use a swingarm with a space in the middle of the pivot for the rear engine mount. That thing was brutally fast, but a nightmare to start and ride. It was such high compression , it always had to be pull started by another quad.
Posted by: z40021
Are the front rims on that rear rims? They look pretty wide.
Posted by: Project300EX
Not many updates. I just sent out money today for some 250r front shocks and a crank bearing/seal kit. I also got the cases split the other day. I'll have to mess around with it some more, since I wasn't able to get the crank out of the right side case. I think a guy is holding me most of the 450r rear parts I need, until I get paid for a job that's in my shop. I haven't heard back, so hopefully he is.
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Originally posted by z40021
Are the front rims on that rear rims? They look pretty wide.
Stock 400ex fronts. The backs are laying in a box.
Posted by: z40021
Those things are pretty wide looking for front rims.
Posted by: Kickstarts-suck
do you have to get longer brake lines with the 400ex arms?
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by Kickstarts-suck
do you have to get longer brake lines with the 400ex arms?
I'm running stock 300 lines. I moved the arms up and down and turned the hub and it's seems to me like everything is clearing. I may get some braided stainless lines later though.
Posted by: Kickstarts-suck
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Originally posted by Project300EX
I'm running stock 300 lines. I moved the arms up and down and turned the hub and it's seems to me like everything is clearing. I may get some braided stainless lines later though.
ok im kinda thinking about 400ex a arms also but i didn't want to have to buy brake lines
Posted by: quadfamily
the stock 300 brake lines work fine.
Posted by: Project300EX
I got my shocks in today. I thought the bearings and everything would be with it, but it doesn't have the lower bearings/bushings. I can't hardly find them anywhere either. Ahh. They're just mocked up now with longer bolts.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0252.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0251.jpg
Posted by: Honda5
WOW! this is a great project I love the way it is going. I have a lot of 300ex/400ex stock parts laying around and will be willing to help out. Tell me the length and o.d. of the bushings for the shocks and I'll see if I have any or if I don't I'll see if I have the metal stock to cut you a few on my lathe. Also post a list of the stuff you need to continue.
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by Honda5
WOW! this is a great project I love the way it is going. I have a lot of 300ex/400ex stock parts laying around and will be willing to help out. Tell me the length and o.d. of the bushings for the shocks and I'll see if I have any or if I don't I'll see if I have the metal stock to cut you a few on my lathe. Also post a list of the stuff you need to continue.
I think the bushings should be the same size as a 400ex. I'll go measure it real quick though. Here's a list of stuff that I'll end up having to get.
300ex parts:
steering stem clamp bushing
airbox
rear brake parts (everything besides the caliper and line to it)
left foot peg and bolts for both sides
400ex parts:
plastic
tie rods
Universal parts:
shock bolts
clutch control assembly (lever, perch, cable, etc.)
tires
Edit: The diameter of the hole in the bottom shock mount is 3/4" give or take a hair. The width is the same as a 300EX or 400EX bottom shock mount. The inside hole should be the same too.
Posted by: Project300EX
Now that I look at it, it looks like it will sit a little low. I followed the dimensions for the bracket. I may just have to adjust the shocks a bit.
Posted by: 300ex_#387
quote:
Originally posted by Project300EX
I think the bushings should be the same size as a 400ex. I'll go measure it real quick though.
Edit: The diameter of the hole in the bottom shock mount is 3/4" give or take a hair. The width is the same as a 300EX or 400EX bottom shock mount. The inside hole should be the same too.
I don't think the bushings will work off the 300ex shocks. The needle bearing that goes in there will not slide into the 400ex shock. Looks good though.
Posted by: Project300EX
I got my crank bearings and seals in this morning. I just got done putting them in. I'll probably order a rod bearing and full gasket set to finish up the bottom end. I've never seen a rod like this one though. All of the rods I've used have a cap at the bottom, but this rod is solid. I guess I have to take the crank apart. Anybody ever messed with a crank/rod setup like that?
Posted by: m.h.s.c.#527
1st off i love this project i like getting to watch it from the beginning but 2nd it seems this isnt ur first project y arent you putting aftermarket stuff on keep it up
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by m.h.s.c.#527
1st off i love this project i like getting to watch it from the beginning but 2nd it seems this isnt ur first project y arent you putting aftermarket stuff on keep it up
Thanks. This actually is my first quad project. I've got a little experience with fabricating from my job (bodyman) and I took a small motors class my junior year of high school were we did a lot of welding. The reason for not using aftermarket stuff is to keep cost down. I'm a college student and only have time to do a small amount of vehicles. I also figured that I could show everyone some cheap upgrades for thier own 300ex projects. Thanks again.
Posted by: 88blaster
every two stroke I've had apart has had the crank/rod you describe, these have to be pressed apart and pressed back together, I would find some one thats done it before, from what I hear they are tough to get back together
I think that's going to be a really nice machine!
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by 88blaster
every two stroke I've had apart has had the crank/rod you describe, these have to be pressed apart and pressed back together, I would find some one thats done it before, from what I hear they are tough to get back together
I think that's going to be a really nice machine!
Ah. Thanks for the info. That sucks though. I wonder if my rod bearing is okay. How should I go about testing that?
Posted by: 88blaster
I would assume if it feels tight and rolls around smoothly that it is fine, but get someone elses opinion too
Posted by: Built_300EX
If your rod has play up and down it is bad. Side to side play isn't really a bad thing so keep that in mind. Also, if it moves just a tiny hair up and down I would still replace it just because you don't want to finish a good motor and have a rod go down.
Only 90 or so at Dennis Kirk for the HD Vesrah. Longer life on it then stock.
Posted by: TXATVRIDER
There's nothing like building a bike from the frame up with custom parts and aftermarket parts. Starting to look good though i'll try to get some pics of my buddies 87 Suzuki 250 he built from the frame up which is selling for only 1800 dollars and is in PERFECT condition.
Posted by: hondaracer57
i might have some parts u need i will try too get back too u with a list and maybe some pics..
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by hondaracer57
i might have some parts u need i will try too get back too u with a list and maybe some pics..
That's cool. Just let me know.
Posted by: Project300EX
I got money sent out thrusday for some parts off a Z400. It was a billet aftermarket thumb throttle, a stock radiator/fan assy, and a clutch actuator. I also sent money today out today to teamflatracing for a 450r carrier bearing, axle, linkage, and the swingarm collars. I'll let you guys know when I get them.
Posted by: Project300EX
Here's some pics the guy sent me of the Z400 parts.
http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/557/2/95/38/2475295380077918674tlGYMU_th.jpg
http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/16/16/7/14/9/2768714090077918674oAcicZ_th.jpg
http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/659/0/38/4/2366038040077918674vjqNUK_th.jpg
http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/653/7/40/81/2236740810077918674enDFiN_th.jpg
Posted by: CRich[814]
i saw the url in your sig and decided to check this out. this is awesome. i love the part that your using a 2 stroke. your project is coming along great man.
Posted by: bansheerider98
quote:
Originally posted by Project300EX
After I get everything welded and ground down on the frame it will be the same blue/purple color as the subframe portion. I'm going to do the swingarm and motor mounts black. The motor will be cleaned up after the rebuild and painted, but I still haven't decided which color. Here's the scheme I'm thinking about. I may paint the cases black and the cylinder/head something else.
Frame - blue/purple color in the pics
a-arms, swingarm, motor mounts, motor cases - black
plastic - yellow 400ex
cylinder, head - ?
go that sick purpley black color on the head but maybe re-think the yellow plastics, if your putting this much work into it, spend a few bucks for some custom plastics or ones that will look great on it.
Posted by: Project300EX
My new stuff hasn't come in yet, but I did pick up some skid plates this morning.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/101_0257.jpg
The post had been bent halfway to the ground for a long time, so I didn't take it off a good post. I'm hoping I can get a frame skid and a-arm skids made with it, but I won't have enough to do the swingarm. I'll have to acquire another downed sign for it.
Posted by: JIMFROMTEXCO
Haha i have the same thing only i call mine a table top lol
Posted by: bansheerider98
lol leave the sing facing down wen you use it , it would be so funny
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by bansheerider98
lol leave the sing facing down wen you use it , it would be so funny
I wish I could have found a stop sign, but this is the only one I've seen that's been down around here. I got the frame skid made and bolted up and have one a-arm skid marked off to be cut. I am leaving the decal on the sign and putting it facing down.
Also if anybody ever sees one down and wants to get it you'll need a 13mm socket and a flat screw driver. Atleast that's what this one took.
Posted by: bansheerider98
you should ge a detour sign whereabouts in usa do you live, approximately?
Posted by: Project300EX
Horse Cave, KY
Posted by: bansheerider98
o thered allways signs down up here in sterling MA
i was gunna say you should come here lol
Posted by: Project300EX
Big update. I just won an Athena gasket set and a parts motor off ebay. It comes with cylinder and Boyeson 2 reeds. Here's a link. I may sell what's left or keep it as a spare. Not sure yet.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...95194&rd=1&rd=1
Posted by: Project300EX
Here's an updated price list.
’02 300ex Frame - $92.63
’03 400ex a-arms/spindles – 61.50
’02 400ex steering stem – 22.49
300ex front hubs/brakes - 45
’88 RM250 bottom end – 65
400ex wheels – 70
250x parts lot – 23
’05 450R handlebars – 15
’05 450R swingarm – 45
Moose Racing OEM crank bearings/seals - 48.70
450r swingarm collars, axle, carrier bearing, and linkage - 150
Z400 radiator, billet throttle, and clutch actuator - 50
Athena complet gasket set - 43.99
'88 RM250 parts motor - 148.32
Total: $780.63
Posted by: bigblock10
Hey i would just like to say that i love this build, also could you let me in on what you had to do to get the 450r swinger to work, i know my g/f's 250x would like it, and i happen to have my stock 450r swinger still..
thanks
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by bigblock10
Hey i would just like to say that i love this build, also could you let me in on what you had to do to get the 450r swinger to work, i know my g/f's 250x would like it, and i happen to have my stock 450r swinger still..
thanks
Thanks.
The swinger just bolts up. The only thing that has to be done is the mount for the shock linkage. It has to be made then welded or bolted to the bottom tube on the frame. Most people use a 250r shock for it.
Posted by: Project300EX
I sent off money for everything yesterday. The guy shipped the radiator, throttle, and clutch actuator today with 2-day shipping. Also flatlandracing is gone until saturday, so hopefully he'll have the rear end stuff sent this weekend or early next week.
Posted by: 400exrapes
you wanna post some pics of what the machine looks like now ?
Posted by: 88blaster
Yeah, let's see um
Posted by: Project300EX
Look at the top of page 6. The only difference now is I've got one a-arm skid and the frame skid on. I'll try to post some pics of that tonight. I'm pretty much waiting for parts to come in.
Posted by: hondaracer57
i have 400ex plastic (blue maier race cut)
might have the shock bolts for u
i have a stock 400ex and stock 300ex clutch perches
i have a fairly new 400 clutch cable (dont know if it will work for u)
300ex a-arms and tie rods
i might even have brand new shock bushings for the 400ex shocks
400ex shocks stock
400ex carb
ive got a ton more of parts just name some more u will need and ill check....
just name some prices u wanna pay w/o shipping added....
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by hondaracer57
i have 400ex plastic (blue maier race cut)
might have the shock bolts for u
i have a stock 400ex and stock 300ex clutch perches
i have a fairly new 400 clutch cable (dont know if it will work for u)
300ex a-arms and tie rods
i might even have brand new shock bushings for the 400ex shocks
400ex shocks stock
400ex carb
ive got a ton more of parts just name some more u will need and ill check....
just name some prices u wanna pay w/o shipping added....
Can you get me some pics of the plastic?
I'm pretty interested in a 400ex clutch control (perch, lever, cable), shock bolts and nuts, and lower front shock bushings. I'm not sure how much the bushings cost new, so I'll just say a price and we can go from there. How about $35?
I'll post a total list of everything I need to finish up.
Posted by: Project300EX
parts needed:
400ex/250r tie rods
Honda size tires
plastics
300ex steering stem clamp bushing
clutch assembly
250r rear shock
300ex gas tank
300ex air box
300ex rear brake resevoir & cylinder
300ex left foot peg
Posted by: hondaracer57
ill try too get some pics of the parts posted tommorrow..the plastics are in pretty good shape but have a burn hole from the exhaust on the rear fender...and i will look in my barn too see what ive got layin around..my dad scraps alot so i gott a see what all he snaged up and took in lol...and whats the 35$ for ?
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by hondaracer57
whats the 35$ for ?
The clutch parts, shock bolts, and lower front shock bushings. If that's too low just make a counter offer and we can go from there.
Posted by: Project300EX
Here's some new pics.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/asdfjkl004.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/asdfjkl005.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/asdfjkl006.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/asdfjkl007.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/asdfjkl008.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/asdfjkl009.jpg
Posted by: hondaracer57
ight here is some pics of the plastic
<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/TheSurrrrrrrrRacer009.jpg" border="<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/TheSurrrrrrrrRacer010.jpg" border="<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/TheSurrrrrrrrRacer011.jpg" border="0"/><img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer023.jpg" border="<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer024.jpg" border=<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer025.jpg" border="0"/>"0"/>0"/>0"/>0"/>
its still dirt from the last flattrack i raced but still in good shape except for there is a little burn in the plastic from the pipe on the rear....
here is some <img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer026.jpg" border="0"/>other pics of stuff...
number pl<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer027.jpg" border="0"/>ate<img
400ex bar clamps
<img sr<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer033.jpg" border="0"/>c="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer008.jpg" border="0"/>
rear spacers<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer039.jpg" border="0"/>
front shocks<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer036.jpg" border="0"/>
400ex clutch<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer032.jpg" border="0"/><img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer034.jpg" border="0"/> perch i didnt get a pic of the cable<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer015.jpg" border="0"/>
tires i set front plus junk rims,and 2 set rear stock 400ex tires
<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer021.jpg" border="0"/>
300ex stock nerfs,left one has a little crack<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer020.jpg" border="0"/><img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer019.jpg"
300ex front brake system
border="0"/>http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/h
300ex clutch perch cables are pretty s-hitty<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer012.jpg" border="0"/>
one rear spindle<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer013.jpg" border="0"/>
400ex stock shock linkage<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer041.jpg" border="0"/>
2-upper shock bushings
i still have more stuff just gotta get a nice day too dig it all up...
Posted by: hondaracer57
wow lol the writing got all messed up sorry bout that...here is some more of the plastic<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/TheSurrrrrrrrRacer025.jpg" border="0"/><img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/TheSurrrrrrrrRacer024.jpg" border="0"/><img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/th_TheSurrrrrrrrRacer010.jpg" border="0"/> this is the brun mark on the rear
<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/hondaracer57/TheSurrrrrrrrRacer008.jpg" border="0"/> rear spacers
im new at putin pics up so sorry for the mess up lol
Posted by: Project300EX
Can you get me a price of these shipped to 42749? And also another price with those plus the plastics? Also let me know if you find any lower shock bushings.
1 set of tires
400ex clutch perch and cable
Posted by: hondaracer57
plastis 170 +shipping
i set of tires i have 2 sets i will send u the better set for 20 +shipping
15+shipping for the clutch cable,perch,lever. the lever is pretty new and the cable was on the quad maybe 2 hrs... i put an ad in the forsale section for abunch of parts and all of this is bestoffer..
but if i can get a box big enough for all of that shipped it is 171$ for next day,77.07 2day, 25.77 for ground...so that is a grand total if u send it ground of $230.77shipped for all.
Posted by: hondaracer57
he is the link too the parts and prices and remember it is all best offer so if u dont like the price throw a $amount at me and i might take it.. http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthr...threadid=284169
Thanx
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by hondaracer57
plastis 170 +shipping
i set of tires i have 2 sets i will send u the better set for 20 +shipping
15+shipping for the clutch cable,perch,lever. the lever is pretty new and the cable was on the quad maybe 2 hrs... i put an ad in the forsale section for abunch of parts and all of this is bestoffer..
but if i can get a box big enough for all of that shipped it is 171$ for next day,77.07 2day, 25.77 for ground...so that is a grand total if u send it ground of $230.77shipped for all.
Is that set of tires all four? I definatly want the clutch parts Let me know about the tires. Also what shape are they in?
Posted by: hondaracer57
10 a peice or all 4 rear tires for 40 plus shipping..
i know there is a plug in the one set but it holds good cause i just had them on my 400ex...but no cuts or slices and probably a little over half tread on all....do u want the plastics?
Posted by: Kickstarts-suck
i have alot of stuff for sale if you need anything.
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthr...323#post2719323
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by hondaracer57
10 a peice or all 4 rear tires for 40 plus shipping..
i know there is a plug in the one set but it holds good cause i just had them on my 400ex...but no cuts or slices and probably a little over half tread on all....do u want the plastics?
I'm talking 2 fronts and 2 backs as a set?
Posted by: hondaracer57
no i have front tires with rims for 20bucks +shipping for both
and i have 4 rear tires ither 10$ a peice or 40$ for all +shiping or
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by hondaracer57
no i have front tires with rims for 20bucks +shipping for both
and i have 4 rear tires ither 10$ a peice or 40$ for all +shiping or
That's cool. So with the clutch stuff, 2 rears, and 2 fronts the total would be 55 plus shipping, right? I'm pretty sure I want that stuff, unless the shipping is real expensive.
Posted by: hondaracer57
yeah pretty much i gotta get rid of a bunch of my parts layin around..the front rims are bent pretty good but the tires are usable,i mean u can run the rims but they shake pretty good if i was u buy them and use the tires and scrap the rims u will make ur money backlol....and i can guess on the weight and give u a price on shipping...what do u think the weight is on this stuff ?it might not be dead on shipping price but in the ball park im gonna say bout 50lbs...
Posted by: Caseys 300ex
I can see shipping be pretty expensive. I shipped a rear shock and it cost me $14.
Posted by: hondaracer57
shipping is 25.77 for 50lbs im gonna have too get the weight tommorrow...
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by hondaracer57
yeah pretty much i gotta get rid of a bunch of my parts layin around..the front rims are bent pretty good but the tires are usable,i mean u can run the rims but they shake pretty good if i was u buy them and use the tires and scrap the rims u will make ur money backlol....and i can guess on the weight and give u a price on shipping...what do u think the weight is on this stuff ?it might not be dead on shipping price but in the ball park im gonna say bout 50lbs...
If you want you can just take the tires off the rims. I already have some rims, so that may save on shipping. It doesn't matter to me though.
Posted by: Black R/T
first off id like to say nice build bro, the paint looks great too. im close to starting my frankin400 and ive been looking for other peoples projects, just getting ideas and tips. did you line the front and rear sprockets up before you welded the motor mounts in? ive heard that is really important. and it also looks like you should fab a shifter if so. im subscribing to this, i like where its goin. keep it up
Posted by: Black R/T
i meant to say in the first post i made, ive got alot of 400ex parts, paddles, dirt tires, shocks, plastics, sprockets, not sure what you need, but if you need it, i probably have it for sale.
JP
Posted by: hondaracer57
did u want the plastics or no?i will get a total for the parts tonighti have too go weigh them...
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by hondaracer57
did u want the plastics or no?i will get a total for the parts tonighti have too go weigh them...
Not right now. I'll probably just get all th mechanical stuff before I worry about the visual stuff.
Posted by: Caseys 300ex
Hows your engine coming along. Did you get a top end yet?
Posted by: hondaracer57
so u want the other stuff?i will weigh it with the bent rims tonight and give u the shipping..if u dont want the rims get back to me real soon..thanx
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by hondaracer57
so u want the other stuff?i will weigh it with the bent rims tonight and give u the shipping..if u dont want the rims get back to me real soon..thanx
Out of the stuff you listed that's it for now. If the rims weigh a lot then I'll just take everything else and you can keep the rims, but if they don't weigh much at all then you don't have to worry about taking them apart. I figured it might save some on shipping, but if they're the aluminum ones then they don't weigh much anyway.
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by Caseys 300ex
Hows your engine coming along. Did you get a top end yet?
The guy got the money for the gasket set today, but the parts motor is in Cali so it will probably be tommorrow before the gets it. I'm hoping to have the gaskets by this weekend. As soon as I get them I'll get the bottom end together and in the frame.
Posted by: Caseys 300ex
Oh sweet keep us updated i love this project and its made me do one of my own.
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by Caseys 300ex
Oh sweet keep us updated i love this project and its made me do one of my own.
Will do. I got my throttle, actuator, and radiator in and on today. I'll try to get some pics tonight. So what's this project you've got going? I love seeing what everybody else is doing on here.
Posted by: hondaracer57
ight i figured the total on clutch perch+lever+cable,2rear tires,2 front rims + tires = $81.00 shipped
i gave u every thing for 50 buck shipping is 31
so do we have a deal cause if i get the payment tonight or tommorrow morn i will ship out tommorrow..
whats ur paypal if we have a deal?
Posted by: Project300EX
Will you take a money order?
Posted by: Caseys 300ex
quote:
Originally posted by Project300EX
Will do. I got my throttle, actuator, and radiator in and on today. I'll try to get some pics tonight. So what's this project you've got going? I love seeing what everybody else is doing on here.
Well im stripping my 300ex and painting the frame red, the motor and swingarm flat black. Then im adding a oil cooler, 400ex carb, 250x cam, and some other stuff to it. Later in the summer im adding a 450r rear like what you have going on. I wasnt going to do it until i saw that u rattle caned your frame so i was like what the heck ill do it to.
Posted by: hondaracer57
yeah as soon as a get it i will ship parts...
my address is
Dean Young
3120 creek lane
ellwood city pa 16117
thanx
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by hondaracer57
yeah as soon as a get it i will ship parts...
my address is
Dean Young
3120 creek lane
ellwood city pa 16117
thanx
I'll get you some money sent out tommorrow.
Posted by: Caseys 300ex
So do you have any new pictures of the new parts that came in today.
Posted by: hondaracer57
ight sounds good..
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by Caseys 300ex
So do you have any new pictures of the new parts that came in today.
I'll run and get some in a few minutes.
Posted by: Caseys 300ex
Sweet thanks!
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by Caseys 300ex
Sweet thanks!
I'm uploading so it will be a few minutes.
Posted by: Project300EX
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/103_0276.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/103_0277.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/103_0278.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/103_0280.jpg
I haven't ever had a throttle apart, so I'll just take the top off my 4trax's throttle and see how that spring is supposed to go.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/RedNoma/300ex%20hybrid%20project/103_0284.jpg
And this is for sale. Z400 e-fan. Make offers.
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Posted by: Caseys 300ex
ok
Posted by: Caseys 300ex
That looks really good. Some alum. radiator shrouds would look sick on the bike and then move the rad. bottle so it mounts to the shroud to free up some room. but its coming along
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by Caseys 300ex
That looks really good. Some alum. radiator shrouds would look sick on the bike and then move the rad. bottle so it mounts to the shroud to free up some room. but its coming along
I plan on maybe fabbing some shrouds up once I get some plastics. Thanks for the comments.
Posted by: Project300EX
I can't wait to get my axle stuff and tires in. I'm giddy as a school girl thinking that I'm that close to getting it rolling.
Posted by: Caseys 300ex
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Originally posted by Project300EX
I can't wait to get my axle stuff and tires in. I'm giddy as a school girl thinking that I'm that close to getting it rolling.
haha i know what you mean. I had surgery on monday so I havent had time to work on my 300ex. Its killing me but tomorrow i get my engine preped for painting.
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by Caseys 300ex
haha i know what you mean. I had surgery on monday so I havent had time to work on my 300ex. Its killing me but tomorrow i get my engine preped for painting.
Getting back in there quick. Hope everything's good with you. Good luck.
Posted by: Caseys 300ex
haha Thanks man!
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by hondaracer57
ight sounds good..
Got your money on the way this morning.
Posted by: hondaracer57
ight as soon as i get it i will ship that day or the next depending on the time....
thax
Posted by: 250xsupertrapp
hi im new here and i have a 1987 250x, anyways i was wandering how much longer is the 450r swinger than the stock swingarm
Posted by: Project300EX
I can't remember, but I think it's either 1.5" or 3". I'll do a search and see what I can find.
Edit: I couldn't find it now. It seems like some of the thread have been deleted.
Posted by: mach1stang
any updates on this sweet project
Posted by: 400exrapes
hey man i waslooking i always follow just dont always post but howd you put a radiator on it like wht does it do cause my engine is all stock on my 400ex and neither the trx400ex or trx300ex or 250r quads have that how did you mount it and what does it do??
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by 400exrapes
hey man i waslooking i always follow just dont always post but howd you put a radiator on it like wht does it do cause my engine is all stock on my 400ex and neither the trx400ex or trx300ex or 250r quads have that how did you mount it and what does it do??
The motor has to be a water cooled motor like the RM250 one I'm using. You can't put a radiator on a oil/air cooled motor. the 250r should have a radiator, or atleast I think they do. Right now I just have it held on with big, thick zip ties. I think it will be sturdy enough for it, but if it isn't I'll just go back and fab some brackets utilizing the holes on the frame tubes.
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by mach1stang
any updates on this sweet project
Waiting on parts. 
Posted by: mach1stang
i hate that part
Posted by: Project300EX
My complete Athena gasket set just came in, so hopefully I'll have the bottom end in the frame and together by tonight. Yay.
Posted by: Caseys 300ex
Sweet i wonder when your other parts will arrive. You sould deffinatly make some solid brakets for the radiator because if that comes out youd be in a bad situation.
Posted by: hondaracer57
i think u can buy universel mounting kit at any auto store for it...they are either for trany coolers or oil coolers but im pretty sure they have them for rads too...
Posted by: Project300EX
I might take a look at those mounts tonight, since I'll be headed that way anyway. I just back back in from the shop and have the bottom end together. I'll probably mount it in the frame and paint it up tonight. Hopefully somebody will answer my oil question in the powertrain section soon.
Posted by: mach1stang
sweet be sure to post pictures
Posted by: Project300EX
Ahh. I'm so pissed off right now. I just spent about two hours finishing up the motor then painting it and mounting it back on the frame. I put about a quart of oil in it to test for leaks. I didn't see anything for a few minutes so I put the recommended 800ml in. I wait a little while and the thing start having a slow leak. So I spent what seemed like an hour retorqueing all the bolts and finally get it taken care of. I was real happy at this point. Then I go to test my shift lever and the shifter shaft slides back into the case and off the gear. I then spent about an hour trying to get lucky and get the two spring on the shaft lined up on the post and at the same time get the gears lined up. No dice. So now I'm going to have to drain the oil, take the clutch cover back off and realign the shaft. I'll probably just wait until I get it rolling so I can get up in under it good to mess with it. Also does anybody know why the shaft would slide in the case? I noticed part of the housing that holds it was broke off, but I honestly thought it would keep it since there isn't much lateral play. Anyway end rant.
Posted by: mach1stang
dang that sucks but problems are all part of the game
Posted by: Caseys 300ex
So anything new??
Posted by: Project300EX
Waiting for parts again. Everything should hopefully be here soon. I know the tires and clutch controls are scheduled to be here on the 1st. I haven't gotten a code for the rest of the stuff though.
Posted by: 400exrapes
yoo my man what kinda tires you get?
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by 400exrapes
yoo my man what kinda tires you get?
Ohtsu for now.
Posted by: Caseys 300ex
Alright ill be waiting.
Posted by: Caseys 300ex
Also can you give me a step by step on how you preped your frame for painting because thats what im doing now. Thanks alot man!!
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by Caseys 300ex
Also can you give me a step by step on how you preped your frame for painting because thats what im doing now. Thanks alot man!!
No problem. The can paint can go on thick, so you don't have to sand it with 400 like you would with an automotive paint. I sanded it smooth with 220 grit. Don't try to go to metal, just get it scuffed up with that. Flip it upside down and sand the bottom. Blow it off real good and wipe it down with a pre paint cleaner or a chemical like acetone. After that spray a light coat of Bulldog adhesion promoter over the bottom side of the frame. Wait a minute and do another light coat of it. Then wait 5 minutes and spray a good coat of paint over the bottom part of the frame. Wait a few minutes and put another coat. Repeat until the paint is uniform. If you're going to do clear wait a few more minutes and do 3 coats with a few minutes between each. Wait a day or two and flip it over and do the same process for the rest of the frame. Also you said you were doing this with rattle can like me. It won't be quite as sturdy as an automotive paint, so I'd suggest a frame skid to keep it nice.
Posted by: Caseys 300ex
Thanks alot.. Ya i just made a skidplate today so protect the bottom. the paint im using is going to be PJ1 frame paint from denniskirk. Thanks again.
Posted by: mach1stang
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Originally posted by Project300EX
No problem. The can paint can go on thick, so you don't have to sand it with 400 like you would with an automotive paint. I sanded it smooth with 220 grit. Don't try to go to metal, just get it scuffed up with that. Flip it upside down and sand the bottom. Blow it off real good and wipe it down with a pre paint cleaner or a chemical like acetone. After that spray a light coat of Bulldog adhesion promoter over the bottom side of the frame. Wait a minute and do another light coat of it. Then wait 5 minutes and spray a good coat of paint over the bottom part of the frame. Wait a few minutes and put another coat. Repeat until the paint is uniform. If you're going to do clear wait a few more minutes and do 3 coats with a few minutes between each. Wait a day or two and flip it over and do the same process for the rest of the frame. Also you said you were doing this with rattle can like me. It won't be quite as sturdy as an automotive paint, so I'd suggest a frame skid to keep it nice.
also you can put the rattle can in hot water it will build up the pressure inside so the paint does not spatter
Posted by: hondaracer57
did u get ur package today?
Posted by: Project300EX
quote:
Originally posted by hondaracer57
did u get ur package today?
It came in, but I haven't got to check them out yet. I just got home. I'm about to go and mount them and I'll let you know when I come back.
Posted by: hondaracer57
did u get them mounted?
Posted by: Project300EX
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Originally posted by hondaracer57
did u get them mounted?
Got them mounted, but I didn't even realize my back wheels don't have any needles in the valve stems, so I'll have to get some tommorrow.
Posted by: mach1stang
cool be sure to post pictures
Posted by: balls2da-wall
My mother said if I dont have anything good to say dont say anything at all. I commend your effort on a hybrid....but....I wish you would of taken it a little more serious. hope that doesnt sound rude or anything, but I think it could of turned out really nice if you spend more time on it? Like ditch the rattle can and wait till you have everything fit and finished...weld it up as strong as you can and grind down them after your done. Have it powder coated. Im sure pappy would give you a deal. Just a thought. I mean the idea is great...
Posted by: mach1stang
sorry if this sounds rude but dont READ go read the first page he said this is a budget build and he gets parts as he gets money if you dont like his pace or work go find another project
Posted by: Kickstarts-suck
Why don't you send him some money to get it powder coated then?
Like he said its a budget project.
Not everyone has money to buy the best of the best stuff.
Posted by: 400exrapes
yeah man do what your mom told you cuz project300ex is the man and u cant diss him on his own thread besides i want to see you make a quad this nice with what like 800 dollars he's probably spent
Posted by: balls2da-wall
Im glad you can alllllll read! Talk to pappy. Tell him your tight. He just might give you one hell of a deal seeing that your on a budget. Also, I said "take his time" It doesnt cost one penny to clean the motor up.
And as far as making a hybrid...I have made a hybrid. In fact I only spent 800$ to convert it...here you go....
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid203/pbc7a7d1e1143ea8f6ab3f78e8cf277be/ef94a4dd.jpg
Posted by: mach1stang
but did you have parts he started with nothing
Posted by: RichM1983
Hey project300ex I just sat and read most of this thread and this is an awesome project. Great work and If you can think of any 300ex parts you might need I may be able to help you out. Keep up the good work. Great work!
balls2da-wall.....theres no way you can compare your bike to his. Yours looks like you have serious cash tied up in it. I mean the front rims and nerfs alone are almost half of what he has spent so far for his whole bike. His is a cheap build. I'm not putting your stuff down, its nice but some people cant afford a lot of stuff. Just say pappy would do the PC for $75 which I don't think would ever happen.....then you figure at least 50 shipping both ways so thats almost $200.
Posted by: 400exrapes
it might have costed you 800 dollars to transfer the hybrid but you probably put a couple grand easy before you converted it
Posted by: Project300EX
I'm not too worried about making it look nice. It's going to go on trails and crap. If I get stuff powdercoated and it gets chipped I'm SOL. If it happens now I can just drop another $5 for a can of paint and touch it up. I got the tires mounted, somewhat. I haven't got the lip to sit flush yet. Not many updates. I've got a sinuse infection or something right and honestly don't feel like getting off the couch.
Posted by: balls2da-wall
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Originally posted by RichM1983
Hey project300ex I just sat and read most of this thread and this is an awesome project. Great work and If you can think of any 300ex parts you might need I may be able to help you out. Keep up the good work. Great work!
balls2da-wall.....theres no way you can compare your bike to his. Yours looks like you have serious cash tied up in it. I mean the front rims and nerfs alone are almost half of what he has spent so far for his whole bike. His is a cheap build. I'm not putting your stuff down, its nice but some people cant afford a lot of stuff. Just say pappy would do the PC for $75 which I don't think would ever happen.....then you figure at least 50 shipping both ways so thats almost $200.
Pappy pays for shipping one way. It cost me 40$ to ship to him from Iowa. And you never know...he very well may go that low.
Posted by: 400exrapes
haha project300ex i got the same thing i ate at a japanese place or w.e where they cook in front of you and i woke up at 3am and puked all over the place i know too much information so ive been on the couch all day and once or twice to the computer
Posted by: 88blaster
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Originally posted by 400exrapes
yeah man do what your mom told you cuz project300ex is the man and u cant diss him on his own thread besides i want to see you make a quad this nice with what like 800 dollars he's probably spent
Well said
project300ex: this build rocks, show us how its done!
Oh yeah, I think yellow plastics would look fine, like a stock suzuki but with darker frame, keep up the good work.
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