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Posted by: bansheerider4

yesterday me and my friends went riding in this rock quary and theres steep hills you can jump..but for some reason just about everytime i landed on the nose of the banshee first...is that cuz i wasnt pulling up?or its just top heavy?or was i goin to fast but i only do it in sexond gear..if anyone knows what could help fix landing like that it would be a great help..

Posted by: spanky101

hit the rear brake...

Posted by: bansheerider4

how would that help to straighten it out?jw..ill try it though

Posted by: Shift_DVS

quote:
Originally posted by spanky101
hit the rear brake...

If you want to die, take his opinion....

Hitting the rear brakes only helps when the nose is too high......im pretty sure your problem is not giving it gas up the jump....next time stay on the gas...but not pinned...you'll notice a difference...and if your nose goes too high, then hit the back brake.

Posted by: DOHC

Its alot easier to bring the nose down then bring it up so try to bring it up pretty high till u get the hang of it

Posted by: gbcap

when jumping you need to keep onthe throttle till you take off...not pinned necessarily but on it none the less. this will help you take off more evenly. while in the air you can stay on the throttle and it will bring the rear end down. or you can tap the front brakes. you can also tap the rear breaks to bring the front end down. it is all a finese thing and you just need to practice to get it all down pat.

Posted by: 250r4life

yah... especially with a banshee- you want to stay on the throttle and even like to blip it right before i take off... like they said its easy to even it out if your front is up, but not if your front is down... plus if you land on your back wheels youre gunna be a lot better off than if you nose dive... but you can always push the front end forward and level it out as well... make sure and give 'er gas- that'll take care of your problem...

Posted by: Bighead1

I had that same problem. But I was going to say something close to what he said ^^.

Posted by: spanky101

sry for the wrong advice... got some stuff mixed up... again sry for the confusion...

Posted by: speedyquad

in a nose down situation-use front brakes only and or pull in the clutch

nose up situation-rear brakes only and or more throttle

Posted by: MX MaNiAc 06

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Originally posted by speedyquad
in a nose down situation-use front brakes only and or pull in the clutch

nose up situation-rear brakes only and or more throttle

The front brakes will take the front end down just as well as the rear.

in a nose down situation pin the throttle!

Posted by: YFZRB

quote:
Originally posted by MX MaNiAc 06
The front brakes will take the front end down just as well as the rear.

in a nose down situation pin the throttle!

Exactly, hit the throttle when your in mid air to bring up the front end. At take off, let your body be loose and your weight centered, throttle through the top of the jump. I've been working on my technique on this same issue and have been launching off a 3' jump and landing 40' from the lip with good results when I rev or brake in mid air. Good luck

Posted by: teamhonda396x

just put a cement block one the ***** end of ur shee and youll be alright.

Posted by: Mxjunkie

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Originally posted by YFZRB
Exactly, hit the throttle when your in mid air to bring up the front end. At take off, let your body be loose and your weight centered, throttle through the top of the jump. I've been working on my technique on this same issue and have been launching off a 3' jump and landing 40' from the lip with good results when I rev or brake in mid air. Good luck

haha here's a demonstration... hear me blip the throttle in the air

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bScxDJtTmKg

This one I kept the throttle just right and didnt have to blip or brake tap, you just have to keep the throttle steady specially with a 2 stroke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO0krirDsP4

Posted by: rockman

quote:
Originally posted by Mxjunkie
haha here's a demonstration... hear me blip the throttle in the air

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bScxDJtTmKg

This one I kept the throttle just right and didnt have to blip or brake tap, you just have to keep the throttle steady specially with a 2 stroke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO0krirDsP4

good example.. if only you could see you in the air better.. just to clear this up for everyone, when the front end is too high you hit the rear brake. When the front end is too low you gas it. It all comes down to simple physics but i don't want to go into that unless someone absolutely wants to know

Posted by: bansheexcracer2

the nose goes down first because yamaha puts there motors more twords the front of the frame.

Posted by: Blue_Streak23

Since i also seem to nose dive landings, I burb the trottle at the lip of the jump, and if i am still rear high in the air, I spike the trottle the pick up the front end.

Also any time you hit the brakes in the air, the four-wheeler will tilt forward.

Posted by: pit/wood

So many variables,put up a vid of you hittin the jump,you may get better advice.

We have been playin with spring rate and Comp/rebound dampining to adjust the attitude at launch. What is the lip like? you might try putting a little kicker lip for about the top 2- 3 feet of the jump,depends on your wheelbase and susp set-up. how is the transition? If it loads your spring then lets in unload before launch you will nose-dive

The banshees (2) that run here are always diving in nose first compared to the 400s and 450s

just my experiance here at my place

Posted by: bansheerider4

if i ever get my damn banshee fixed and get a camera ill go out there and video tape it.but its just a hill in a rock quary that there blastin out...if you watch this video its kinda like that hill cuz ours has a little hill you have to go up before it and ours is steeper an a lil taller...kinda almost were youll be goin straight up off the jump

Posted by: YFZRB

Not enough throttle to pull this one up!

Posted by: shftmx300ex

quote:
Originally posted by spanky101
hit the rear brake...

....no not exactly

Posted by: YFZRB

And a little too much on this one.

Thanx to BKP for the pic

Posted by: teamhonda396x

that looks like it might hurt the tail bone

Posted by: firefighterjosh

HIt the gas to bring the front end up
Hit the rear brake to bring the front end down

With my shee I would approach the jump standing up with my butt towards the back of the shee. I would have the shee in the power band but not screaming. Then when I hit the lip of the jump I would blip the throttle. Ussualy it worked everytime. Just depends on the jump. Sometime you just can't help it.