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Posted by: bluebaron

Does anybody have 06er with the kick starter to? The dealer that im gonna buy a 450er this week from says they can just add one on.

Posted by: Shawn Hess

I have one and it works great. Best thing you can add for dead engine starts. The price might scare you a little though depending on your discounts is around $500.

Posted by: bluebaron

$500!! yeah that did scare me, why so much? im guessing you need new rear fenders for it to fold into?

Posted by: Tripyn

I am wondering the same thing, I have a list of all the parts but there is no list for that little piece where the kicker folds into. Shawn, do we have to buy all new plastics for the rear?

Posted by: jb500ex

quote:
Originally posted by Tripyn
I am wondering the same thing, I have a list of all the parts but there is no list for that little piece where the kicker folds into. Shawn, do we have to buy all new plastics for the rear?

yes

Posted by: xsr_racing28c

We picked up our 06 Kicker on Monday of last week and man thats the way to go. They are hard to get ahold of, but well worth it in the end. The dealer told me he couldn't really budge on the price because there arn't many kickers around but paying more now will pay off in the end, i know it.

Posted by: Shawn Hess

quote:
Originally posted by Tripyn
I am wondering the same thing, I have a list of all the parts but there is no list for that little piece where the kicker folds into. Shawn, do we have to buy all new plastics for the rear?

I took that piece off of a used set of 04 rear plastic I had at my shop and with a little triming got it to work until I buy new fenders.

I heard that the price is so high because all of the pieces now come from Japan they aren't made in the US. One way to make the cost cheaper is to take the 04-05 kicker and sand it a little so that it wont hit your clutch cover it only cost around $35 and the kicker for the 06 is $150.

Posted by: chad cavagnaro

if you look inside your 06 er plastic, rite were the kicker would fold in the plastic, on the inside under the tank, you can see there is a recess covered by the plastic were you could carefully cut the plastic with a dremmel then sand it for your kicker to lay in, until the plastic is not so expensive. its like they were planning for a kicker to go there anyway, and laid a piece of plastic over to cover the recess up.

Posted by: pitbull43910

who makes the kicker and where can i get one ??? when i bought my 450er they told me there was no conversion kits and can i keep my electric start as well.......... like on the yamaha oooo it hurts to say that word!

Posted by: chad cavagnaro

apparently, what you do is order the 04-05 kick start, the start gear and install it on the 06. if anybody has definate part names and even possibly part #'s that would be awsome.

Posted by: Shawn Hess

Have your dealer look at the motor diagram for the 06. It shows the parts for the e-start and the kicker have him order all the parts to make the e-start a kicker. It is very simple. It includes a seal, starter shaft to hold the gears and the kicker, some bearings, and a few other gears with spacer shims.

Posted by: 305400ex

I will definately be looking into this. If anyone manages to get all the part #'s please share it with us. I am gonna try to get them as soon as possible, so if I get them I will post ASAP.

Posted by: eganracing

so if i put on a kick starter can i still use the magic button if i get lazy?

Posted by: 305400ex

found this... is this all the parts or theres more?
click here

Posted by: Shawn Hess

Yes go to the page on the 06 kicker and pull up the starter info. Now order every part you see there

Posted by: Shawn Hess

quote:
Originally posted by eganracing
so if i put on a kick starter can i still use the magic button if i get lazy?

Yes you will still have full function of your e- start

Posted by: Bart

I have successfully added the kick starter to my 06 TRX450ER. I have the complete parts list with diagrams in pdf format. If you want a copy, send me an e-mail at

bn_400ex@hotmail.com

Please note that the parts list does not include changes for hot-start operation also found on the 06 TRX450R.

A Honda Service Manual is also a good thing to have for installing the kicker.

Posted by: Tripyn

I wonder if the 04/05 plastics would work on our bikes?? Yes the 06' plastics are expensive; Dealer gave me the same story about being made in Japan!

Posted by: Shawn Hess

The way the fenders attach by the tank are different

Posted by: 400excracer

quote:
Originally posted by Bart
I have successfully added the kick starter to my 06 TRX450ER. I have the complete parts list with diagrams in pdf format. If you want a copy, send me an e-mail at

bn_400ex@hotmail.com

Please note that the parts list does not include changes for hot-start operation also found on the 06 TRX450R.

A Honda Service Manual is also a good thing to have for installing the kicker.

Please give us a run down of how hard it was, how long to do it, and how well it works. Oh, and some pics would be great! Thanks

Posted by: Bart

Sorry, no pictures. The ones in the service manual are good.

Relatively easy to do. Drain the coolant and oil. Pull the right side crankcase cover. Remove the clutch. Put in the kickstarter gears, bearings, etc... Don't forget to put in the kick stopper plate (not mentioned in the manual). Put clutch on. Remove plastic cover plate from crankcase cover (where the kick starter spindle comes out) and put in seal. Put crankcase cover on. Install kickstart lever. Add oil and coolant. Hardest part was cleaning the gasket material off of the crankcase and putting all the rubber grommets in the new plastic. Job should take 1-2 hours if you are mechanically inclined (took me over 3 hours).

Works very good at least on a cold and warm motor. Consistently faster starts than the electric (comparable to 04-05 kick). I have not tried it out under very hot motor conditions yet.

Posted by: chad cavagnaro

bart did you purchase manual for a r, er, or are they combined?

Posted by: Bart

They are combined for 06.

Posted by: remmyTRX

Let's see some pictures of these ERs converted to a kicker.

Posted by: Dave400ex

Yeah lets see some pictures. I am interested in this. Did the $500 include new rear plastic or not? I haven't had any problems with my electric except for when it's hot/you stall it. So how does the kicker do for that? I would think without the Hot start it wouldn't be the best?

Posted by: quadracer12

im really interested in this. show us some pics!

Posted by: 450rJam

first to post pics of this gets .........ummmmmmmm
thank you ?

Posted by: Shawn Hess

I will try to post some pics of mine later today

Posted by: Bart

I had no problems starting mine with the kicker after a 1 hour XC race today. This is without any hot-start modifications. But then again, mine also starts well with the electric when it is hot.

Posted by: remmyTRX

C'mon fellas - let's see some pics.

Posted by: Tripyn

Hey Guys, a picture of that divet that is already in the plastic on the 06' ER would be cool. Why.....I have been looking for some cheap plastics for an 06'-no luck. Looking to save something on the conversion, cheapest I can get the parts less the plastics is $380 +shipping. When someone gets a pic of their kicker conversion pls post them-really dying to see what it looks like.

Posted by: 069onthez

$336.32 through Service Honda w/out the plastic for everything!!!!!

Posted by: Tripyn

Wow, when I looked it was more then that and some of the parts for an 06' were not listed. The 04/05 parts numbers were not the same but did not look any different. Did not want to take that chance because you never know.

Posted by: remmyTRX

Does anyone have pics yet?

Posted by: 1fastprototype

service honda will convert for 600 installed, you can kick will sitting and hit the button at the same time starts fast hot or cold.

Posted by: Dave400ex

Does that $600 include new rear plastic?

Posted by: trx400exxracer

I am waiting for my dealer to find me an 2006 kicker my bro got the e-start he will probably put the kit on his cause e-start sucks when the motor is hot

but I am waiting on a kicker and my dealer says there are non in GA 1 in NC and 1 in FL there are trying to get me one they are sponsoring me

Posted by: 4ABURN

MY er starts like a champ hot, very hot, or cold. But a back up kicker would be nice.

Posted by: desratt

iiii want pic's

Posted by: hoopd450

quote:
but I am waiting on a kicker and my dealer says there are non in GA 1 in NC and 1 in FL there are trying to get me one they are sponsoring me

there are 25 '06 kickers in tennessee. 5500 each.

Posted by: desratt

I have an 06 kicker... what I want to see is a picture of one with the kicker and an electric start on the same bike...

Posted by: Bart

What do you want to see????? Look at your 06 with kicker. Imagine what it would look like with a battery, starter motor, and a little orange button.

Posted by: desratt

proof

Posted by: jb500ex

quote:
Originally posted by desratt
I have an 06 kicker... what I want to see is a picture of one with the kicker and an electric start on the same bike...

go to a gncc race you will see a bunch of them. dave bishop, stefanie verkade, bryan baker are a few names that come too mind that have them.

Posted by: trx400exxracer

quote:
Originally posted by jb500ex
go to a gncc race you will see a bunch of them. dave bishop, stefanie verkade, bryan baker are a few names that come too mind that have them.

Santo DeRisi has one to i saw it the other weekend at a local race

Posted by: jb500ex

quote:
Originally posted by trx400exxracer
Santo DeRisi has one to i saw it the other weekend at a local race

your right and i think he sells the kit's also

Posted by: Dave400ex

Bart I was just looking the parts list over that you sent me and noticed #9 of the kick start spindle is not in it. There is another 25T/13T gear you need, do you not need both? I noticed they had different part numbers?

Posted by: Bart

Dave,

Part #22 is used instead of #9 on the 2006 model.

Good luck.

Posted by: trx400exxracer

quote:
Originally posted by jb500ex
your right and i think he sells the kit's also

yeah Jaimie i think you can send your engine to him and he or his mechanic puts them on or i got the parts list to put the kicker on just give me your e-mail pm it to me and i will send you the list of parts you need to order to change to a kicker

Posted by: QuadRacer041

quote:
Originally posted by jb500ex
go to a gncc race you will see a bunch of them. dave bishop, stefanie verkade, bryan baker are a few names that come too mind that have them.

i heard that Lou Russo fella has one too