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2006 ATVA MX Nationals Round #1 – Glen Helen - Discussion
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Posted by: laeger2fiddyr
hey ian, that would be cool if chad got 7th, i just tried to call him and no answer.
travis
Posted by: Quad12
hey travis, that would be awesome if he got 7th overall that is why I was trying to clarify if it was 7th just for the 2nd moto.
hey call me tomorrow I have your backgrounds done and should have your window sticker done tomorrw or Tuesday.
later...
Posted by: Zracer15
quote:
Originally posted by Zracer15
Alright, whoever is dial up and trying to listen to the live race coverage you are screwing it all up. I am just trying to listen to my bro down there and a few other friends that are racing down there.
Thanks, and hope it is up soon. 
Why isnt it working?
Posted by: laeger2fiddyr
hey ian, yeah thats kinda what i want to figure out, it would be great for him to finish 7th, hope he can do good this year, so he can get some more help!!!!! i will call you tomorrow on my lunch break in between 12-1. thanks for getting them done.
Posted by: catch22blaster
Any results from any other class
Pro am
Pro am Prod
Any other classes that anyone has info on ???
Posted by: 450man
Corey Gauthier out of wisconsin won the 16-24
Posted by: blakefoote
WHAT IS THE TOP TEN ON THE PRO CLASS FINALS?????
Posted by: Admin
The Complete Results are now posted
ATVA MX Nationals - Round 1 - ATV Results Link
Pro
1. Joe Byrd 3-1
2. John Natalie JR 1-3
3. Doug Gust 4-2
4. Keith Little 2-4
5 Joe Haavisto 9-5
6. Tavis Cain 7-8
7. Jason Luburgh 6-10
8. Jason Dunkelberger 11-6
9. Chad Wienen 13-7
10. Jeremy Lawson 5-17
11. Matt White 12-11
12. Kory Ellis 10-14
13. Tim Farr 16-9
14. Harold Goodman 15-14
15. Pat Brown 18-13
16. Jeremiah Jones 14-19
17. Travis Spader 19-16
18. Dustin Wimmer 17-18
19. Dana Creech 8 DNS
20. Dustin Nelson DNS 12
Posted by: Shift_DVS
We will have Interviews and Race coverage on video up hopefully tomorrow...we're cutting the fooage as we speak!
Posted by: OutlawEX
Did i miss something? What happen to Nate Free's?
Posted by: mxdave28
HUH, Hmmm, is that the new Zuki on the podieum?? interesting
Posted by: MXRACER86
quote:
Originally posted by Shift_DVS
We will have Interviews and Race coverage on video up hopefully tomorrow...we're cutting the fooage as we speak!
AWESOME!!!
Posted by: 450r51
what happened to creech.
Posted by: Admin
Devore, CA - The opening round of the ATVA MX Nationals provided race fans plenty to talk about with several race changing events.
Moto One
John Natalie Jr grabbed the Holeshot with Jeremiah Jones running strong in second until a few turns into the race after the uphill whoops. Jones was launched off his quad when he was hit, which caused a chain reaction involving Dustin Wimmer, Dustin Nelson, Travis Spader, and several other riders. John Natalie would go on unchallenged and would win with around a 10 second lead. Keith Little and Joe Byrd would round out the top three.
Side Notes:
Dustin Wimmer: - Coil Wire Broke and ended his race
Travis Spader – Engine Problems
Tim Farr- Kick Starter Issues
Pat Brown – Ignition issue from a rock
Moto Two
John Natalie Jr would once again grab the Holeshot and looked to have another win wrapped up as he pulled a 7 second lead with only a few laps to go, but his seat would come off, which forced him to slow down and allow both Joe Byrd and Doug Gust to make the pass. Natalie was able to maintain 3rd, which wasn’t enough for the win, which went to Joe Byrd.
Joe Byrd picked up where he left of the 2005 season with the Overall Win, and it was the first time him and Heather Byrd have ever won on the same weekend, so he was really excited about his victory. Doug Gust rode a strong race in the second moto after making plenty of adjustments to his LTR450, which included adding a set of ITP Tires from his Stock tires.
Jeremiah Jones would once again run into trouble through the whoops when he ran into rear suspension issues, which ended his race. Dustin Wimmer would also have a bad weekend after he had coil issues in the first Moto, he would end up with a flat tire in the second moto.
Keith Little looked extremely comfortable on his new Honda ride as he just missed the podium to Doug Gust, but with the series heading to Texas next weekend. I am sure he is looking for a repeat of last year when he won his first overall at the ATVA MX Nationals.
A complete report will be posted tomorrow night along with photos.
Posted by: dudeonit
I was at the race and had to shower twice when I got home to get all the grit out of places it shouldn't be.
Was a great day of racing and yes, the Suzuki's were fast. Jones would have given Nat a run if his suspension had not failed in the second moto. Didn't notice Johns seat coming off. Just saw him look down and slow or he would have won the second moto.
Farr had all kinds of problems in the first moto and just didn't look in sync. in the second.
Little looked very comfortable on the Honda as well as Byrd.
Gust had a bad start and worked his way through the pack with some beatin and bangin in both moto's.
The track was the usual ROUGH, RUTTED with the usual carnage. You would have to be standing at the base of the Talladega turn when the Packs blow by to understand it. You can barely walk up that sucker. The ground shakes and you are looking up at them . I have some video that I may post later.
The woman's #1, #2 were having a great race neck and neck the whole moto.
If not for the wind it would have been a perfect day. But it's rare that Glen Helen has no wind this time of year.
Gonna be a great year with the new kid on the block(zuki), switching of brands by some riders, etc.
Posted by: Merriman
Jones would have won the second moto. He was starting to catch Natalie until his rear linkage broke. And that was before Natalies seat came off.
Posted by: Merriman
Ellis was also looking good, but ran into some bad luck his weekend.
Posted by: smitty_13f
So is Kory Ellis and Pat Brown now on the same team b/c they're quads look identical?
Posted by: MXRACER86
any more pics???
Posted by: Merriman
Yes, I have about 150 pictures that I need to sort through. Unfortunately I don't have the time right now either to do this.
Last for now. John Natalie pinned around the Talladega turn.
Posted by: B&M
Nice Pics!!!!!!! He's a moovin!!!!
Posted by: SAND LUVR
I will like to thank harlen for all his hard work he is putting into this great site.
Posted by: MXRACER86
I gotta say, Harlen is the man! I would be lost without atvriders.com!
Posted by: Merriman
OK, I have time for a few more.
Doug Gust did well today, and his LTR450 ran awesome.
Posted by: Merriman
One of my favorite riders:
Posted by: Merriman
Kieth Little aboard his LSR 450R.
Posted by: Merriman
Gust again, with Farr just behind him
Posted by: Merriman
Posted by: Merriman
Joe Haavisto did really well this race. I hope to see him up there the rest of the year.
Posted by: Merriman
The racing action was pretty intense all day long.
Posted by: readybeartoe
Big Koodo's to all that posted results!!! But did Jone's break his rear FOX shock or the shock mount on the frame or linkage? I wish he could have gotten to battle to the end in the 2nd moto! Anyway congrats to all!!! I know Natalie's seat fell off but Looks like Byrd is THA MAN! for now. Unless Doug, Jerimiah, and Suzuki will do something about it in TX. I LOVE THISH SHEET! 
Posted by: Atkins
Wow, amazing turnout! I think Byrd and Natalie have the most heart for the sport for sure. Hopefully this humbles Suzuki a bit.
Posted by: mountaineer
Excellent pictures merriman!!!
Thanks
Posted by: howmuchnow
I think John answered all that questioned him on all the changes he made in the off season. He just has the heart it takes to win.
Posted by: Jersey450R
anyone else notice the new suzukis are useing walsh a-arms, NOT STOCK..
"Oh but we will race this machine with a stock chassis"
^please...
Posted by: Merriman
I think he may of broke his linkage, which resulted in his shock breaking too. But I can't be 100% sure about that.
Posted by: Merriman
Posted by: Merriman
quote:
Originally posted by Jersey450R
anyone else notice the new suzukis are useing walsh a-arms, NOT STOCK..
"Oh but we will race this machine with a stock chassis"
^please...
Yes, but to their credit, they were using stock swingarms and axles.
Posted by: TWISTED
quote:
Originally posted by Merriman
Yes, but to their credit, they were using stock swingarms and axles.
Now that's impressive!!!!!!! Stock axles.... How many other pros are doing that?????
Posted by: TWISTED
quote:
Originally posted by TWISTED
Now that's impressive!!!!!!! Stock axles.... How many other pros or factory teams are doing that?????
Posted by: trick250r
Not to be disrespectful or anything, but isnt Natalie running a stock swing arm?
Posted by: jwick07
quote:
Originally posted by trick250r
Not to be disrespectful or anything, but isnt Natalie running a stock swing arm?
Yup sure is
Posted by: MXBOB
and all the yamaha riders, and yamaha ran stock swing arm last year
Posted by: BROOKS #3
GOOD TO SEE HONDA PICKING UP WERE THEY LEFT OFF.
Posted by: atvracer9m
did anyone cover 0-200 2 str/0-300 4 str class
Posted by: Jersey450R
yea stock swingarms are great, but what people dont realize is that its a NEW stock swingarm every 2-3 races.
i know one of the pros that rode a yamaha last season that went through 11 stock swingarms
Posted by: Jersey450R
...anyone know what happened to Lysinger?? did he race? hes not up on the final results.
Posted by: jwick07
quote:
Originally posted by BROOKS #3
GOOD TO SEE HONDA PICKING UP WERE THEY LEFT OFF.
AAAHHH really loud noises
Posted by: MXBOB
yes but the 05 yfz swing arm was way stronger then the 04 know a couple xc racers that broke a 04 but had no problems with the 05 and the chain on the 06 on XCbobs.com YFZ held up fine at the 12hr
Posted by: 400grl
We have been racing on our stock 05 swingers for a LONG time - rough races, too - and constant abuse......no problems with them.
Perhaps, given what happened to the Zuk....they shouldn't be running their stock rears......?
Posted by: Dale512
Lets see if we can get this straight. Jone's WALSH linkage broke which caused his FOX rear shock to break. Is it that hard to understand? Had nothing to do with the stock components. As for you people saying he ran the stock rear shock if you look at the second picture of the LT-R that merriman posted, on the left side of the subframe you can see the reservoir for the FOX shock mounted almost against the plastic. The stock rear shock is a piggyback setup.
Posted by: z03n05
quote:
Originally posted by Jersey450R
...anyone know what happened to Lysinger?? did he race? hes not up on the final results.
Donald had to go to the LCQ and he came up one spot shot of qualifying.
Posted by: readybeartoe
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Originally posted by Dale512
Lets see if we can get this straight. Jone's WALSH linkage broke which caused his FOX rear shock to break. Is it that hard to understand? Had nothing to do with the stock components. As for you people saying he ran the stock rear shock if you look at the second picture of the LT-R that merriman posted, on the left side of the subframe you can see the reservoir for the FOX shock mounted almost against the plastic. The stock rear shock is a piggyback setup.
Sharp eye! I don't know for sure if it is a "walsh" or not but I thought they were running a "walsh" set up...? I can see the linkage in the same pic and it doesn't look like "it's" broke???(It still has the bolt with nut through it) SURELY A "WALSH" WOULD NOT BREAK! 
Can't tell if it's a stock swinger either from the pics. Must have been the lower shock mount on the "FOX SHOCK" that failed. Could have been the hard hit Jerimiah took in the 1st moto.?? But I thought he would just jump on another backup bike to make sure everthing was right in the 2nd moto. or can they not do that?
Posted by: TWISTED
They have to run the same machine.... Is it just me or does the blingstar heel guards look a little too gay???
Posted by: readybeartoe
So that's a stock dog bone linkage right? Doesn't look like the "walsh I saw on ,pics or Gust's bike. Gust must have been running a full blown bike and Jone's >a "close to stock as possiable while still being competative" bike. They were probably thinking "At least one made it to the podium." but WHAT IF TWO! made it and one was on a stock swinger and axle! That would have been something to brag about. Too Bad though....
Posted by: readybeartoe
"bling. Bling" huha! is that a shape of a heart?lol
nahh they are stars, .............blue clover ,and purple diamonds.
Posted by: Dale512
The more I look at it the more that does look like the stock rear link. I'm beginning to wonder if the mount on the swing-arm didnt break.
Posted by: reconmaster
just wondering since byrd and natalie got the same results pretty much did byrd get the win cause his number is higher than natalies? or was it a tie
Posted by: LTZBusa
Both Pat Brown and Travis Spader are factor riders for yamaha this year. So incase you were wondering why their quads looked the same, now you know.
Posted by: LTZBusa
quote:
Originally posted by readybeartoe
So that's a stock dog bone linkage right? Doesn't look like the "walsh I saw on ,pics or Gust's bike. Gust must have been running a full blown bike and Jone's >a "close to stock as possiable while still being competative" bike. They were probably thinking "At least one made it to the podium." but WHAT IF TWO! made it and one was on a stock swinger and axle! That would have been something to brag about. Too Bad though....
According to the latest issue of dirt wheels, both quads use a stock set up for there rear suspension including the rear shock. the only thing that is different is the pipe, some porting work, a-arms and front shocks. even from the pics i saw at glen helen, gust is running the stock rear tires. Just some food for thought.
Posted by: kd5sfq
"just wondering since byrd and natalie got the same results pretty much did byrd get the win cause his number is higher than natalies? or was it a tie"
From the AMA/ATVA rules:
Points awarded per moto are 1 point for first, 2 points for
second, 3 points for third, etc. The rider accumulating the
fewest points after both motos is the overall class winner. In
case of a tie, the winner is the rider with the better finishing
position in the final moto.
Posted by: dustin123
quote:
Originally posted by LTZBusa
Both Pat Brown and Travis Spader are factor riders for yamaha this year. So incase you were wondering why their quads looked the same, now you know.
Your smart!! It goes a long with the rest of the useless 29 pages of babble.
Posted by: diangelo#67
nope wasn't the linkage it was the tabs off the swinger that broke take a good look at the pics of the bike after damaged the linkage is all still there but the tabs from the swinger are gone, this happend to me on a swinger my friend made.
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/attachment.php?s=&postid=2064946
Posted by: Merriman
John Natalie is running a Roll Design rear swingarm and front end.
Both Gust and Jones had stock rear ends, minus shock, and I didn't look at the linkage real close, so I am not sure.
Posted by: jwick07
I know that I read a interview where he said that he was going to run the stock swingarm, must have combination that worked better.
Posted by: diangelo#67
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/attachment.php?s=&postid=2058370
in this pic you can see the stock pull rod off the dog bone this is the part that broke I bet
Posted by: jc250r31
Either the linkage broke in half or they are running 2 different linkages because if you looka t both pictures closely you can see that the CNC'ed part is different and has a bolt through it .....it looks shorter either way the pics of the linkage on the quad on the 2 stands is different than on the race bike.
Posted by: MXRACER86
quote:
Originally posted by diangelo#67
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/attachment.php?s=&postid=2058370
in this pic you can see the stock pull rod off the dog bone this is the part that broke I bet
If that is what broke then thats pretty rare that you see a walsh part break!
Posted by: jc250r31
actually i was wrong after further inspection of the pics it wasthe frame tabs that broke off. the bolt that you are seeing should have been connected to the frame it is now pointing backwards to the rear...
Posted by: BlueZ440
whao what a trip...Good racing all weekend long.
The pro class was great...Natalie is Fast but Jones looks alot faster..
It's going to be a great season
Posted by: blakefoote
does anyone have the picts from the main??
Posted by: BlueZ440
I have some videos
Posted by: TWISTED
quote:
Originally posted by BlueZ440
I have some videos
Well for god sakes man, lets see em!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: diangelo#67
yup your right
Posted by: EvilJester400EX
quote:
Originally posted by MXRACER86
If that is what broke then thats pretty rare that you see a walsh part break!
Too bad it was a stock part that broke.
Posted by: keiper14
quote:
Originally posted by reconmaster
just wondering since byrd and natalie got the same results pretty much did byrd get the win cause his number is higher than natalies? or was it a tie
I think you're meaning that they both had 1st and 3rd place finishes. The second moto is the deciding factor, the better finish in the second moto will do it. The second moto basically decides the winner. lol...there is no tie in racing, maybe in final points at the end of the season but that's a different story.
Posted by: MXRACER86
quote:
Originally posted by EvilJester400EX
Too bad it was a stock part that broke.
There saying that the linkage broke right? Cause there running walsh linkage, correct me if im wrong?
Posted by: MXRACER86
quote:
Originally posted by BlueZ440
I have some videos
LETS SEE THEM!!!!!!!!
Posted by: BlueZ440
I'll try to get with QJ and have her post some clips.. but just in case..I'm sure someone will have the video(********..
maybe)
I still need to bring everything in that is on my bag..2 long of a drive to do it tonight
But I will try to get what I have on here
Posted by: diangelo#67
no the tabs that hold the linkage to the frame
Posted by: robman
the linkage looks fine to me,the shock broke.
Posted by: BlueZ440
NO One knows what happend...As far as I know
There is alot of rumors out there....I was standing right there when Jones passed Byrd and hit the jump/whoops.. Alot of the Media was around Jones when he pulled off but they just took pictures of the rear of the bike...Jones Mechanic ran over there and pretty much Blocked the photographers out when they lifted the Suzuk up from the rear.. Then they all went inside the Suzuk Pit and blocked every Hole they found, so that noone can see what happend... There was no pieces flying or laying around from the shock......
Posted by: CdaleXtreme
I believe the rear part of that linkage has another piece to it, the tab that physically mates the shock to the linkage.
That to me is what appears to have broken.
As for what Walsh part breaking, it goes to show everyone is human, and jones being superhuman at times, can prove faults in anything. What makes a good company is wether they address the problem correctly, and with both Fox, Walsh, or Suzuki I am sure the problem will be dealth with.
Posted by: macsolocam
quote:
Originally posted by diangelo#67
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/attachment.php?s=&postid=2058370
in this pic you can see the stock pull rod off the dog bone this is the part that broke I bet
Also in that photo did everyone see how close the font tires are to the nerfs bars????....If I did that to my quad I don't think it would be anywhere close....It doesn't look right at all...the bling star nerfs look really big and gawdy!!!
Posted by: yogi
jones was running a fox shock,fox linkage,& stock swingarm. the tabs that connect the link to the swingarm broke, causing the shock to break, the linkage is probally the last thing to break, but look for a walsh swingarm on jones bike for texas.
Posted by: jrofrommaine
where are the pictures?
Posted by: T Creech
Sure looked like a broken shock to me....
Posted by: bad01300ex
are you realted to dana creech??
Posted by: MXRACER86
What happen to dana in the second moto?
Posted by: walshyfz86
from the picture it deffently broke from the frame not the swinarm. If it was from the swingarm the linkage whould be much closer to the frame. in the pictures it looks like its hanging from mid swingarm. With a darkblue/black pieces on the linkage from the rear pictures witch seems to be the frame broke. and it looks like a stock linkage?
Posted by: T Creech
Dana who? JK... yes I am related...
Dana bought 06 Yamaha a couple of weeks ago. He rode it for a photo shoot and then at the national - Saturday in the qualifier and Sunday in the first moto. There was some trouble with his motor and we are not certain what happened totally.
We will work on diagnosing it this week.
Posted by: MXRACER86
will dana be doing all the nationals??
Posted by: MXRACER86
this is what the stock linkage looks like
Posted by: T Creech
Nope... we are going to focus on other projects and conserve our funds for those.
This year there are so many Nationals and although we would love to head out to all of them, it is just not possible for us to do at this time.
We will very much miss all of our friends that we see when we travel to these events though.
Posted by: readybeartoe
quote:
Originally posted by walshyfz86
from the picture it deffently broke from the frame not the swinarm. If it was from the swingarm the linkage whould be much closer to the frame. in the pictures it looks like its hanging from mid swingarm. With a darkblue/black pieces on the linkage from the rear pictures witch seems to be the frame broke. and it looks like a stock linkage?
I THINK WE HAVE A WINNER!!! That is what I see after further inspection of the pics! OMG! PLEASE tell me I'm blind! Oh Well back to the duwahwing board.
And I was going to buy one too
Posted by: readybeartoe
quote:
Originally posted by diangelo#67
nope wasn't the linkage it was the tabs off the swinger that broke take a good look at the pics of the bike after damaged the linkage is all still there but the tabs from the swinger are gone, this happend to me on a swinger my friend made.
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/attachment.php?s=&postid=2064946
That Dogbone was originally facing foward> to the frame (blue tabs). Not the swingarm. The swingarm connects with the the H looking part of the linkage but i don't see that hanging down either. Man Team Suzuki must have been SMOKING TO COVER UP the carnage!
I still belive it was the frame tabs that broke or combanation of all being weak from the wreck in the 1st moto. Jone's must have taken a HUMONGOUS HIT! in the 1 moto to knock him off his Quad! I hope he is OK, He's good guy and down to earth... At least he was when I talked to him a over a year ago....but he was riding a YFZ at a fair race. Boy!He is "Something else!" to watch!
He is going to Kick Butt in TX!!!!
I wish he was still on his R I bet he does too.
Posted by: blakefoote
quote:
Originally posted by T Creech
Nope... we are going to focus on other projects and conserve our funds for those.
This year there are so many Nationals and although we would love to head out to all of them, it is just not possible for us to do at this time.
We will very much miss all of our friends that we see when we travel to these events though.
aw that sux....thats a bumer
Posted by: Jersey450R
Dana probably forgot to tighten the 2 bolts behind the starter cover 
Posted by: tuefelhunden
Isn't this forum supposed to be race coverage. I thought there was another thread for conversation. It would make it much easier to get around the site if everyone would just post in the correct forum.
Posted by: BlueZ440
Dana had trouble with the Clutch...It looked really Bad like some one took a grinder to it.
Posted by: 400grl
Hey!! Maybe that means we get to keep Dana in the ITP Quadcross Series!!! HI MRS. CREECH!!!!
Posted by: Jersey450R
I'm just wondering when Harlen is going to put the coverage up...
Posted by: Perpetrate
quote:
Originally posted by yogi
jones was running a fox shock,fox linkage,& stock swingarm. the tabs that connect the link to the swingarm broke, causing the shock to break, the linkage is probally the last thing to break, but look for a walsh swingarm on jones bike for texas.
Houser linkage, Fox does not make a linkage.
The swing arm was bent 1" from the 1st moto crash which caused the frame tabs to brake under the added stress which caused the shock shaft to break at the clevis.
Posted by: CdaleXtreme
quote:
Originally posted by Perpetrate
Houser linkage, Fox does not make a linkage.
okay so lets get this straight.....Walsh chassis products, Fox Suspension....Houser Linkage? 
Posted by: ShiftRacr400
Its a Walsh Linkage. I just got off the phone with Brenda at Walsh. I have the linkage and a arms on order for the LT-R.
Posted by: Jersey450R
1st race on the LTR450 = bent swingarm, broken frame, and destroyed shock.
Right outta da box baby! 
Posted by: Perpetrate
Sorry I ment Walsh not Houser, my bad.
Not sure if they will run the stock swing arm next race or a Walsh arm. I do not think the stock arm and axle are going to be stong enough for these guys
Posted by: TWISTED
quote:
Originally posted by Jersey450R
1st race on the LTR450 = bent swingarm, broken frame, and destroyed shock.
Right outta da box baby!
Right after it was plowed into by 650lbs going 40 mph.
Posted by: Perpetrate
Plus a 3rd overall!
Posted by: TWISTED
quote:
Originally posted by Perpetrate
Plus a 3rd overall!
Hell yeah!!!!
Posted by: CdaleXtreme
Whats wrong with Suzuki, dont they know that these are dangerous times we live in. I think the LTR should be designed to take mortar, and RPG blasts, and continue on their misson.
If an LTR cant survive an impact with a Flyin Byrd, and his trusty 450R unscathed, then it is junk....Right?
For the first time in a true race tested situation, I think the LTR was did very well.
Posted by: QuadJunkies
I cant WAIT to se the Helmet Cam clips !!!
Blue, you already have a vidoe host or do you need one for your video Coverage??Bring me the mini DV to work tongiht and Ill have them up for you tomorrow
Posted by: coryatver
What happen to tim farr? I heard he had problems with the kick start?
Posted by: FHKracingZ
it sure wont do as bad as the yfz's twenty some DNF's the first , 2nd , and 3rd year in the pro class.
Posted by: hsr
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Posted by: hsr
quote:
Originally posted by Jersey450R
1st race on the LTR450 = bent swingarm, broken frame, and destroyed shock.
Right outta da box baby!
You are an idiot. Ok now that I got that out of the way...suzuki is busting their arse here, do you not think buy running these stock parts on the highest level of atv competition on the face of the earth is saying something in itself? How many stock trx and yfz swingarms and axles there are on the gate? I can count them all on one hand. It's not really so much a matter of whether gust and jones are winning right now, it's what Suzuki is doing for the sport. A factory rig, factory mechanics, TRUE factory quads with those racing them getting paid a true factory salary. Nonetheless, Suzuki trying their *** off to produce something that is going to make this sport a hell of a lot less forgiving on yours and my wallets. Do you think Suzuki is just going to sit back and let broken parts and DNF's happen? Hell no ... they are going to go back to the drawing board and assess the situation and do everything in their power from letting it happen again. Stuff like this is what is going to make this sport progress and fill out to how really popular it is, and is going to be for years to come. They have a lot of time and money invested to win a championship, and they truly give a rat's *** about the consumer. Everything is going to have the bugs worked out of it in it's first go around. Look at the 04 Yamis, all you had to do was look at one and something would break on it, and some our trusty 05 hondas were eating cranks like there was no tomorrow. Hey if you would like to buy a brand new yfz or trx and put anywhere from $3,000-$10,000 into one to make it 'race ready' then more power to ya. For me , i think i'll buy the new zook and practically have all of that for a third of the cost.
Posted by: MXRACER86
quote:
Originally posted by hsr
You are an idiot. Ok now that I got that out of the way...suzuki is busting their arse here, do you not think buy running these stock parts on the highest level of atv competition on the face of the earth is saying something in itself? How many stock trx and yfz swingarms and axles there are on the gate? I can count them all on one hand. It's not really so much a matter of whether gust and jones are winning right now, it's what Suzuki is doing for the sport. A factory rig, factory mechanics, TRUE factory quads with those racing them getting paid a true factory salary. Nonetheless, Suzuki trying their *** off to produce something that is going to make this sport a hell of a lot less forgiving on yours and my wallets. Do you think Suzuki is just going to sit back and let broken parts and DNF's happen? Hell no ... they are going to go back to the drawing board and assess the situation and do everything in their power from letting it happen again. Stuff like this is what is going to make this sport progress and fill out to how really popular it is, and is going to be for years to come. They have a lot of time and money invested to win a championship, and they truly give a rat's *** about the consumer. Everything is going to have the bugs worked out of it in it's first go around. Look at the 04 Yamis, all you had to do was look at one and something would break on it, and some our trusty 05 hondas were eating cranks like there was no tomorrow. Hey if you would like to buy a brand new yfz or trx and put anywhere from $3,000-$10,000 into one to make it 'race ready' then more power to ya. For me , i think i'll buy the new zook and practically have all of that for a third of the cost.
I couldn't of said it better myself!
Posted by: seven
Ill give it 6 months then decide if its junk or not. I am hoping not becouse then I will buy one. Every brand has good and bad.
Posted by: dudeonit
All I know is Natalie, Byrd, Little Jones, and Gust were very fast and the race could have gone to any of these guys barring bike problems.
Yes, Jones Suzuki let him down as well as Nat's seat but all those guys were FLYING, no matter what brand they were on.
From what I saw, all of these guys are so close on speed, it could be anybody's championship to take.
DNF's , bike problems, crashes are going to decide this one.
None of the machines looked to have any advantage motor or chassis-wise.
I will say one thing. That stock LTZ exhaust with the restrictor sounds like SH%^$T. In the stock LTX promo race one had the restricter out and it sounded great. The others made you want to plug your ears. VERY unique sound, YUCK!!!
Still working on the video thing.
Posted by: EngelstadFQX
A little bird tells me a video will be posted very soon...keep your eyez open ya racer punks!
Bartman
Posted by: T Creech
Actually Dana's Dad is his mechanic and he definitely was aware of a potential problem with certain bolts backing out or becoming loose in the 06. He replaced all bolts that were thought to have issues with Motion Pro product and used red-lock tite on them as well. Evidently there was another bolt deep in the transmission that worked itself loose. We still have to tear it down to know for certain, but that is what we suspect.
Dana's mechanic/dad is very thorough with his wrenching. He seldom leaves anything untouched or unprepared on Dana's quad. It's a matter of personal pride for him in workmanship and safety of his child at risk.
Posted by: T Creech
and, HI Cory! I should see you a few times in the ITP series as well. Missed you last weekend. You would have done well.
Posted by: hoopd450
why isn't all this crap in the discussion section where it belongs. i would just like to see the race coverage and not have to read a bunch of smack talk from guys who are just trying to degrade some of the most talented, hardest working people in the sport. stuff breaks and everyone has a bad day sometime. get over it.
Posted by: Shift_DVS
Video is up on the homepage for you guys who wanted to see some action
Posted by: MXRACER86
quote:
Originally posted by Shift_DVS
Video is up on the homepage for you guys who wanted to see some action
Were??? I can't find anything?
Posted by: MXRACER86
nevermind!
Posted by: MXRACER86
That video was awesome!!! BIG PROPS!!!!!!
Posted by: Shift_DVS
Posted by: Shift_DVS
We'll there is a limit on how much footage from the nationals can be put on the internet these days...so the gang and I figured for the 2 min limit we have, lets make it to the point and fun to watch....
So this is what we came up with, i only had Harlens handy cam to work with...but we made it work...took a lot of rocks to the head...but it was worth it!
Dan Guetter
Posted by: Admin
quote:
Originally posted by Shift_DVS
We'll there is a limit on how much footage from the nationals can be put on the internet these days...so the gang and I figured for the 2 min limit we have, lets make it to the point and fun to watch....
So this is what we came up with, i only had Harlens handy cam to work with...but we made it work...took a lot of rocks to the head...but it was worth it!
Dan Guetter
You knocking my high dollar equipment, lol. I take things one step at a time. As I generate more videos, the better the equipment that I will purchase.
Awesome job with the video even with my junk equipment, lol.
Posted by: MXRACER86
Will there be video coverage for every race?
Posted by: komik
The 1st Moto Crash was crazy on top of the hill. Farr and Jones got together that started the whole chain reaction. Jones got high sided by the impact and set him right into the crowd of on coming quads as did Farr. Farr was able to stay on the bike but Jones got tank slapped and fell off the bike right in front of Byrd. Who just narrowly missed him. Gust was right behind Byrd who managed to sneek past as Farr came right into his path. Gust and Farr then collided, which actually straighted Farr back out. Dunk then appeared to rear end Dana. Lawson went to the inside to miss the break check of Dunk. Which then pushed Wimmer to the inside of the turn. Jones fell to the ground and Byrd just missed running him over. Jones bike the turned back toward the inside of the turn into the on coming racers. The bike then collected Lawson, Wimmer, Nelson, Cain and Spader. Spader appeared to of turned Nelson into Jones bike as he pushed them down the track sideways. Jones was up quickly and playing frogger to get back to his bike. Natalie and Little were ahead of the wreck and probably didn't even know it happened. Gust somehow navigated through missing both Jones and his ghost riden bike on two seperate occasions. Farr got straighted out and made it thru just behind Gust, followed by Luburgh.
All this in a matter of 1-2 seconds. Only reason I know that is cause my camera shoots 3 frames a second.
Posted by: Atkins
quote:
Originally posted by hsr
Nonetheless, Suzuki trying their *** off to produce something that is going to make this sport a hell of a lot less forgiving on yours and my wallets.
You sure about that???
Posted by: Davids440ex
does anyone know anyother web sites that has pictures from glen helen, there were people taking pics in everyturn, some one has got to have my crash
Posted by: Jersey450R
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/attachment.php?s=&postid=2058370
WALSH! linkage.
Posted by: atvmx14
Correct me if i'm wrong but byrd is on an '05 trx
http://www.atvriders.com/gallery/2006atvamxracing01glenhelen/images/KE2F0377.jpg
Posted by: 400grl
quote:
Originally posted by komik
The 1st Moto Crash was crazy on top of the hill. Farr and Jones got together that started the whole chain reaction. Jones got high sided by the impact and set him right into the crowd of on coming quads as did Farr. Farr was able to stay on the bike but Jones got tank slapped and fell off the bike right in front of Byrd. Who just narrowly missed him. Gust was right behind Byrd who managed to sneek past as Farr came right into his path. Gust and Farr then collided, which actually straighted Farr back out. Dunk then appeared to rear end Dana. Lawson went to the inside to miss the break check of Dunk. Which then pushed Wimmer to the inside of the turn. Jones fell to the ground and Byrd just missed running him over. Jones bike the turned back toward the inside of the turn into the on coming racers. The bike then collected Lawson, Wimmer, Nelson, Cain and Spader. Spader appeared to of turned Nelson into Jones bike as he pushed them down the track sideways. Jones was up quickly and playing frogger to get back to his bike. Natalie and Little were ahead of the wreck and probably didn't even know it happened. Gust somehow navigated through missing both Jones and his ghost riden bike on two seperate occasions. Farr got straighted out and made it thru just behind Gust, followed by Luburgh.
All this in a matter of 1-2 seconds. Only reason I know that is cause my camera shoots 3 frames a second.
YOU GOT PICS???? When will they be posted?
Posted by: jcv400ex
The video of the race was so,so......I'd be happier if it was in the content of what it was last year, cut out the music, lets hear the motors....and the dial up version was even slow for me at work on a T1 line.
I guess you can't please everyone, but atleast you have something to complain about because it sure beats nothing, and I personally like it since we are only limited to two minutes of race footage from the entire race.
Posted by: QuadJunkies
quote:
Originally posted by jcv400ex
The video of the race was so,so......I'd be happier if it was in the content of what it was last year, cut out the music, lets hear the motors....and the dial up version was even slow for me at work on a T1 line.
At least someone managed to take the time to do ANY at all... !!!
I know a gal who done alot of vido and pics and Ill post the link here when she gets it done .
Posted by: komik
400grl...I got lots of photos as usual, but my websites are still down so its really causing a problem right now. I am working on getting them moved to another location. So hopefully soon.
Posted by: T Creech
I have a lot of photos from this past weekend. I am not sure what crash you are referring to. I do have the crash from pro-quaifier 1.
Posted by: komik
I was referring to this one that was in the Pro Moto 1 on Sunday on top of the first hill...sorry don't know the name of the hill. I got an aerial shot from the Top of Mt Saint Helens of the whole thing unfolding.
Here was Harlens view of it.
http://www.atvriders.com/gallery/2006atvamxracing01glenhelen/images/KE2F0193.jpg
Posted by: 400grl
That would be Mt. Shoei - just before Mt. St. Helens......
Posted by: BlueZ440
that hill is cool with the rythem section in it.. The bad thing is if you go wide u get a chit load of people trying to pass you but u carry more speed...
I have my race on video and u can see 4 or so quads sneak in and then I just pass them all going up..
Posted by: MXRACER86
quote:
Originally posted by BlueZ440
that hill is cool with the rythem section in it.. The bad thing is if you go wide u get a chit load of people trying to pass you but u carry more speed...
I have my race on video and u can see 4 or so quads sneak in and then I just pass them all going up..
let's see the video!!!!!
Posted by: BlueZ440
I can't host anything...but I will try my hardest to get over to QJ house or work and get the video to her
Posted by: yogi
quote:
Originally posted by atvmx14
Correct me if i'm wrong but byrd is on an '05 trx
http://www.atvriders.com/gallery/2006atvamxracing01glenhelen/images/KE2F0377.jpg
well it might be somthing like mcgrath riding a 93 cr250 til 97 ya think?? if u like somthing & it works.why change.
Posted by: yogi
quote:
Originally posted by atvmx14
Correct me if i'm wrong but byrd is on an '05 trx
http://www.atvriders.com/gallery/2006atvamxracing01glenhelen/images/KE2F0377.jpg
well it might be somthing like mcgrath riding a 93 cr250 til 97 ya think?? if u like somthing & it works.why change.
Posted by: quad71
check out spaders tail pipe on fire.
Posted by: QuadJunkies
quote:
Originally posted by BlueZ440
I can't host anything...but I will try my hardest to get over to QJ house or work and get the video to her
Get your lil Brown *** ova here and Ill get it up for you!
Posted by: Admin
quote:
Originally posted by QuadJunkies
Get your lil Brown *** ova here and Ill get it up for you!
Better watch the way you phrase your statements
Posted by: QuadJunkies
quote:
Originally posted by Admin
Better watch the way you phrase your statements
LOL That did kinda sound bad didnt it! 
Hiram, you know what I meant...
Posted by: CdaleXtreme
http://www.atvriders.com/atvracing/atvamx/200601pileup.jpg
Look at spaders exhuast! Are those flames?
Posted by: MXRACER86
quote:
Originally posted by CdaleXtreme
http://www.atvriders.com/atvracing/atvamx/200601pileup.jpg
Look at spaders exhuast! Are those flames?
Indeed they are!
Posted by: BlueZ440
quote:
Originally posted by QuadJunkies
LOL That did kinda sound bad didnt it!
Hiram, you know what I meant...
oh I know what you meant alright
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