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2005 GNC MX Round 11 - Unadilla Discussion and Cheer
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Posted by: Admin

Have at it, chat away.

Here's the live coverage

Posted by: Cdaleracer

Does anybody know why Jamie Luburgh had a DNF yesterday?

I want to cheer on a few people: Angela Moore, Jamie Luburgh, Cindi Hart, Casey Martin, Chase Cunningham, Josh Chapman and Ross Dantonio

Posted by: Out_Sider

Com'on Jeremiah Jones!!!

Posted by: BlueZ440

Come on DOug..DOn't let Farr beat you.. Also JOnes

Posted by: quadlee

LETS GO BIG BYRD!!!!!!

Posted by: BlueZ440

What's the hold up..It's 1230 in NY..right?

Posted by: Ex_Rider43

I want richard pelchat 3 times canadian champ to qualify for the pro class !!

Posted by: NacsRacer027

i wonder how farr likes the fox shocks...

Posted by: TheIceMan

yeah Spader!

Posted by: quadlee

way to go Joe!

Posted by: OutlawEX

What happend to Goodman?

Posted by: Out_Sider

what happend to natalie?

Posted by: Cdaleracer

I would like to know what happened to Natalie also? Is he running the #1 plate this race? I saw on ******** that he already has it on his quad.

Posted by: gmland

just wish I was there, can't wait til Loretta's...

Posted by: Cdaleracer

thanks for the pics already Harlan. That is one nasty bruise on Natialie's arm.

You don't have the overall for the Womens B/C do you? Thanks!

Posted by: BlueZ440

Let's get the show rollin..

Posted by: BlueZ440

Yeah Jones

Posted by: Kilabanshee

Who won? Jones with a 3rd and 1st. Byrd with a 2nd and 2nd.

Posted by: xander1027

what happen to spader in the second moto

Posted by: quadlee

whats the overall for everyone?????????????????

Posted by: Cdaleracer

Finally Jones get a podium!! Man I wish I was there to see it. He definitly deserved that!!

Posted by: BlueZ440

Jones took 1st Byrd 2nd..

HOW DID GUST PAST DUNK AND FARR ON THE LAST LAP??

Posted by: Cdaleracer

does any one know how Gust finished?

Posted by: BlueZ440

quote:
Originally posted by Cdaleracer
does any one know how Gust finished?

5th on the second moto..

Posted by: Cdaleracer

thanks, but I left out the "overall" part

Posted by: z4racer

quote:
Originally posted by Cdaleracer
thanks, but I left out the "overall" part

I think Gust finished 5th overall and Farr finished 7th

Posted by: p@iNn3ck

Overall results are now up in the Live Coverage thread (as well as full moto 1 & 2 results)

Posted by: UKRacer#17

any one know how John mitchell got on in pro-am production???
He is from over here in the UK

Posted by: BlueZ440

So now the Battle is between both Teammates for 2nd place..Doug Vs Jones. After today is tight at 195

With Farr at 193..It's on for the Final round

Posted by: mxmike17

Go Jones!!!!!!

Dont mean to spoil it but Carmichaels worst lap was 2:38 and his best was 2:16 at Unadilla

You can see MX lap times here....

http://home.ama-cycle.org/prorace/raceres/mx/otimes.asp?type=m&cls=m2&snct=p7110&year=2005&rnum=1

Only reason I looked because I was about to go rag all the mx'rs
on the local message board

Posted by: TheFontMaster

quote:
Originally posted by Out_Sider
what happend to natalie?

I was watching about 30 feet away when he crashed, I thought the quad was gonna land on him.

Posted by: Cron

Hope Natalie is alright. Good thing he has the series locked up, sounds like a rough couple weeks for him. Proves he is human, I was starting to wonder.

Does anyone know why Spader switched back to the Yammi? That is kind of a statement, he must have really liked the Yammi better to give that back and the support.

Posted by: FoxRacing81

quote:
Originally posted by Cron
Hope Natalie is alright. Good thing he has the series locked up, sounds like a rough couple weeks for him. Proves he is human, I was starting to wonder.

Does anyone know why Spader switched back to the Yammi? That is kind of a statement, he must have really liked the Yammi better to give that back and the support.

That's good then! Switches back to the Yammie and gets a win!

Posted by: 450r51

its about time suzuki got a win, ud think with all the money they put in this year they would see some better results!

Posted by: NacsRacer027

that last coment about suzuki picking better riders....whats wrong with their current pick of the crowd?

jones has a championship under his belt, and is a very consistent rider as long as he can stay up and running....

gust just had a bad season...happens to everyone

right now both suzuki boys are tied for 2nd with 195 points i think....i realy dont see how you think they should have picked better riders

Posted by: MrP

quote:
Originally posted by 450r51
its about time suzuki got a win, ud think with all the money they put in this year they would see some better results! they should have picked different riders.

Thats just an ignorant statement!!!!

Posted by: SRH

that was the most brutal track ive ever ridden but i had a blast...it was unreal how fast the pros were hitting some of that stuff

by the way harlen...was that you that got stung in the face by a bee saturday? ouch hahah

Posted by: z400ACDC

Suzuki has a couple of great riders! This year the competition made some big gains and the suzuki did not. The Z needs to lose about 30# and a little more bottom end power and it would be fine.

Posted by: NacsRacer027

no...suzuki needs a 450...they dont need to have more bottom end. the problem with their motors is they mod them to be a ticking time bomb basicaly...they need it to be competitive, even though its unreliable.

Posted by: z03n05

unreliable? how many DNF's did Gust and Jones have with motor problems? That motor is practically bullet proof. It just needs to be on a lighter bike.

Posted by: NacsRacer027

LMFAO....you think suzuki is going to sacrifice a little bit of relibility for power when they have all that r&d into the rest of the products?

look at goodman, hes had quite a few motor problems this year...becuase sparks does so much to his motor, becuase his bike doesnt have everything else it needs to be able to make up for the lack of power.

stock...the motors are reliable, there is no question about that...but as soon as you get them into the 50 hp range...its gonna be an iffy investment.

that goes with any motor.

Posted by: Out_Sider

quote:
Originally posted by z03n05
unreliable? how many DNF's did Gust and Jones have with motor problems? That motor is practically bullet proof. It just needs to be on a lighter bike.

spader blew one up at daniel boone

Posted by: Out_Sider

O YEAH!!

WOOOO THATS THE WAY JONES!!!

Posted by: SRH

quote:
Originally posted by z03n05
unreliable? how many DNF's did Gust and Jones have with motor problems? That motor is practically bullet proof. It just needs to be on a lighter bike.

the 2nd moto jones was pointing at his motor to his mehcanic... itwas making noise

Posted by: Cron

Gust and Jones had no DNFs because they get new equipment all the time. Spader and Goodman have had engine probs and they are not as fortunate to get the goods like Gust and Jones. That is why. Gust and Jones get a new race bike every other national, a new clutch every moto, and I am sure their engines are probably rebuilt after every national. Goodman and Spader do not get that, taht is why they have DNFs while Gust and Jones do not.

Posted by: NacsRacer027

no...goodman has a fresh motor for every weekend...

im sure spader does to.

Posted by: Atkins

Any word on the results of the 2 pro-am classes???

Posted by: z400ACDC

quote:
Originally posted by NacsRacer027
no...suzuki needs a 450...they dont need to have more bottom end. the problem with their motors is they mod them to be a ticking time bomb basicaly...they need it to be competitive, even though its unreliable.

I am just telling you what Jeremiah told me. He said that the yoshi strokers run pretty good until you bog them down in the tighter sections. After Lorrettas, they can retire the lead sleds and look foward to the new 450

Posted by: Zwanter

haha led sleds. i must say they are heavy compared to the new 450's but i still wont get rid of mine until the new suzuki comes out.

Posted by: z400ACDC

Oh, I love my Z for the trails! I would not trade it for any of the 450 racers. In my 41 years, I have had a lot of great quads(Shee, EX, Raptor). I like the Z the best!

Posted by: Pro1200

Nice job Jones!!

If you looked carefully on Gust's and Jones' LTZ's, they said LTZ450.

Posted by: fastexgirl4c

quote:
Originally posted by NacsRacer027
LMFAO....you think suzuki is going to sacrifice a little bit of relibility for power when they have all that r&d into the rest of the products?

look at goodman, hes had quite a few motor problems this year...becuase sparks does so much to his motor, becuase his bike doesnt have everything else it needs to be able to make up for the lack of power.

stock...the motors are reliable, there is no question about that...but as soon as you get them into the 50 hp range...its gonna be an iffy investment.

that goes with any motor.

ill second that!!...

congrats to JONES!

Posted by: 450Racer

that's just amazing that Natalie was running only 4 seconds slower than Carmichael's lap times. Check out Natalie arm in that pic. there's no way he was running 100%. i bet if he was in top shape, he would be one or two seconds slower. that's just awesome to see quads being this fast. i never thought it would happen. congrats to Jones for the win! this year's coverage has been AWESOME as well as the season has been. i'm looking forward to the last round and the new 450's coming out.

Posted by: TC426EX

Man, I dont know whats been up with Farr the last few rounds, but its getting frustrating!

Posted by: chad502ex

Harlen,

Those digital pictures are the best I've seen just about anywhere. You could print those on poster prints and sell for big bucks that's how good they are imo.

kudos.

Posted by: RACERMOM

quote:
Originally posted by z400ACDC
I am just telling you what Jeremiah told me. He said that the yoshi strokers run pretty good until you bog them down in the tighter sections. After Lorrettas, they can retire the lead sleds and look foward to the new 450

No...don't think Jeremiah told much anything like that. YES....you can only max out that 400 cc engine to a certain point and YES they are ticking time bombs. Yes they need to bring out that 450........soon. BUT NO don't think Jeremiah would call his paycheck a ticking time bomb! As for calling the Z a lead sled......nah don't think so. YES the STOCK Z may be heavier, but not a fully loaded racing Z. AND yes I WOULD know before you get ticked at me.

Posted by: syckNtwisted121

quote:
Originally posted by 450Racer
that's just amazing that Natalie was running only 4 seconds slower than Carmichael's lap times. Check out Natalie arm in that pic. there's no way he was running 100%. i bet if he was in top shape, he would be one or two seconds slower. that's just awesome to see quads being this fast. i never thought it would happen.

Just so everyone knows, the quads weren't running the COMPLETE pro track that the likes of RC and company were doing. For anyone who was there, 2 turns after gravity Cavity, "the apple tree turn" the pro bikes make a sharp right after that tree and make a sharp left on after the tree just down the hill, easily adds 3-4 second per lap. Also, the whoop section in the back that the pros & pro-am were doing, RC, Bubba and Kevin Windham were hitting the first whoop, jumping all the way to the second to last one and then jumping all the way up to the plateau, It was sick !!!! Not taking anything away from the pro quad guys ( I do race quads after all) I jut dont want anyone to go talking shizzle to a biker and then realize they are wrong LOL

Posted by: Quad18star

What a weekend .... Best racing I've ever seen hands down .

In moto #1 , a ground wire came loose on Natalies quad with about 1/2 lap to go . The second moto he was pushing a little too hard and took a soil sample .

There was something wrong with Gust's quad , cuz after moto #1 , I heard Paul Turner appologizing to Gust about it. Gust seemed to be in pain also after practice .

Sky Jump was just amazing to watch ... furthest I seen anyone fly off of it was about 130-140 feet ... INSANE .

Gotta give it props out to my fellow Canadian Richard Pelchat ( Pro class #46) for making the main and putting on a great ride .

I have about 100 digital pictures that I took .... I'll post the best ones slowly .

Harlen ... thanks for the ATVRider.com stickers at the podium celebration .

Posted by: Quad18star

Paul Turner telling Gust " Sorry Dig "

Posted by: 400exBro

Props to Richard for getting to race with the pros, he was running the pro am class as well!!!
also to Greg Gee, one of our local up and coming racers, he ran the production A class and was hauling, for his 2nd year racing he is deffiantly going some where...
I have lots of pics from the pro pratice on sunday, i was standing right beside the sky shot... Tavis Cain was busting out some freestyle for us, Dunk and Brown were also putting on a show...

Awsome racing all weekend, loved that track, and the screw u loop (or what ever it is called) is one steep hill, you can barely walk down without falling.
i will get some pics up tomorrow since i just got home.

Posted by: PaulNiemiec#88

How about that guy launching the snowmobile 100 feet out of the gravity cavity.... I thought that was pretty insane...The sky shot was by far the funnest jump i have ever hit and what made me feel even better i was one of the only b riders to be launching it during race day sat and sunday. Nothing like sailing 120+ feet...Idk if i liked the track as a whole tho to boring if u ask me... i would have rather ran southwick again...just my thoughts tho

Posted by: Quad18star

quote:
Originally posted by 400exBro
Props to Richard for getting to race with the pros, he was running the pro am class as well!!!
also to Greg Gee, one of our local up and coming racers, he ran the production A class and was hauling, for his 2nd year racing he is deffiantly going some where...
I have lots of pics from the pro pratice on sunday, i was standing right beside the sky shot... Tavis Cain was busting out some freestyle for us, Dunk and Brown were also putting on a show...

Awsome racing all weekend, loved that track, and the screw u loop (or what ever it is called) is one steep hill, you can barely walk down without falling.
i will get some pics up tomorrow since i just got home.

I didn't know Gee was running .... damn !!!!

I'd have liked to have gone over near sky shot and Screw U loop , but there was no way I'd have been able to walk all that distance .

How long did it take you to get home??

I hauled butt from Sudbury to Niagara in 5 hours on Friday

On the way home we went through Kingston .... 2 1/2 hours or so to the border and no wait at Customs . Left the track at 5pm ... was checked into our hotel in Kingston by 8:30 ( plus we spent 25 minutes in Kingston looking for Hotels)

Posted by: Quad18star

quote:
Originally posted by PaulNiemiec#88
How about that guy launching the snowmobile 100 feet out of the gravity cavity.... I thought that was pretty insane...The sky shot was by far the funnest jump i have ever hit and what made me feel even better i was one of the only b riders to be launching it during race day sat and sunday. Nothing like sailing 120+ feet...Idk if i liked the track as a whole tho to boring if u ask me... i would have rather ran southwick again...just my thoughts tho

Yeah ... it was a pretty nice jump on the sled ... but I have seen bigger in the snow . He'd have hurt himself if he'd have launched off skyshot .... I think he had the brains to say No to jumping it .

I'll give you props for hitting sky shot .... you were flying down that hill . How was the landing??

Posted by: TheFontMaster

quote:
Originally posted by Quad18star
I didn't know Gee was running .... damn !!!!

I'd have liked to have gone over near sky shot and Screw U loop , but there was no way I'd have been able to walk all that distance .

Was screw u loop the part of the track with that steep hill that you can't see from the bleechers that they only opened for the pro and pro am riders? I have 2 good legs and nearly killed myself going down that.

Posted by: Quad18star

quote:
Originally posted by TheFontMaster
Was screw u loop the part of the track with that steep hill that you can't see from the bleechers that they only opened for the pro and pro am riders? I have 2 good legs and nearly killed myself going down that.

Yup !!!! Wish I could have went down there to see some racing.

Posted by: TheFontMaster

I think one of the anouncers said that that hill was the steepest in the series, even steeper than the hill at Lorretta's I think is the track. Some how when I decided to walk around the track to get to the sky shot, the pro am class was racing so I watched there a few minutes. They were still goin when I got to the sky shot, there is nothing like watching quads jump 100+ feet when you are right next to the jump. The hill on the very back of the track, even though it was right in the sun was probably my favorite place to watch on the track, you had a good view of the sky shot, and the drop off, you could see a little of screw u loop, and gravity cavity was off in the distance.

Posted by: Elka83

where are the pics at?? somone said there was pics?

Posted by: Admin

quote:
Originally posted by Elka83
where are the pics at?? somone said there was pics?

Here are Some Pics with many more coming soon.

Posted by: PaulNiemiec#88

quote:
Originally posted by Quad18star
Yeah ... it was a pretty nice jump on the sled ... but I have seen bigger in the snow . He'd have hurt himself if he'd have launched off skyshot .... I think he had the brains to say No to jumping it .

I'll give you props for hitting sky shot .... you were flying down that hill . How was the landing??

The landing was actually not to bad. The first time i hit it was in like the second age practice and everyone was telling me 4th wide open. So i did it and landed really really far down deff around 135 and it was a little rough but not to bad. Actually when i hit it the first tiem i seen myself going way past the landing and thought about bailing but im glad i stayed on

Posted by: Admin

Paul leading the way

Posted by: z400ACDC

quote:
Originally posted by RACERMOM
No...don't think Jeremiah told much anything like that. YES....you can only max out that 400 cc engine to a certain point and YES they are ticking time bombs. Yes they need to bring out that 450........soon. BUT NO don't think Jeremiah would call his paycheck a ticking time bomb! As for calling the Z a lead sled......nah don't think so. YES the STOCK Z may be heavier, but not a fully loaded racing Z. AND yes I WOULD know before you get ticked at me.

Mom,get back in the kitchen! I live about 3 miles from JJ and talk to him about once a week. Oh hell, your not worth it!

Posted by: Quad18star

quote:
Originally posted by PaulNiemiec#88
The landing was actually not to bad. The first time i hit it was in like the second age practice and everyone was telling me 4th wide open. So i did it and landed really really far down deff around 135 and it was a little rough but not to bad. Actually when i hit it the first tiem i seen myself going way past the landing and thought about bailing but im glad i stayed on

Good choice to stay with it ... bailing would have hurt !!!!

Posted by: Elka83

quote:
Originally posted by Admin
Here are Some Pics with many more coming soon.

u get any pics of youth production?

Posted by: BlueZ440

What I want to know is.... how was the pass on DUnk and Farr from Digger? Was it a sweet pass or what? In the live coverage it said white flag out Farr was pressuring Dunk and Doug followed..Then next thing you know Doug beats them both

Thanks

Posted by: Quad18star

quote:
Originally posted by BlueZ440
What I want to know is.... how was the pass on DUnk and Farr from Digger? Was it a sweet pass or what? In the live coverage it said white flag out Farr was pressuring Dunk and Doug followed..Then next thing you know Doug beats them both

Thanks

Dunk was being pressured by Farr the whole race .... right after the whoop section , there was a corner .... both Dunk and Farr went into the corner hard ... a little too hard .... they both rubbed wheels for about 2 seconds which slowed them up just a little bit ... Gust took advantage of it and was able to get around them .

That's what I was able to see from up in the bleechers .... maybe someone closer to the action knows a bit more of what happened .

Posted by: 400exBro

i was standing right there when Doug Gust passed both Dunk and Farr.
Going to the up hill whoop section, Farr followed dunk for some reason, and dunk slowed down a bit at the top of the whoop section, allowing Gust to fly by both of them in the whoop section. They were hauling ***!!!

Also, why was Tim Farr running Fox shocks? or that is what they looked like, tim was not running pep becuase they had remote rezzies, and where all black.

Posted by: BlueZ440

quote:
Originally posted by Quad18star
Dunk was being pressured by Farr the whole race .... right after the whoop section , there was a corner .... both Dunk and Farr went into the corner hard ... a little too hard .... they both rubbed wheels for about 2 seconds which slowed them up just a little bit ... Gust took advantage of it and was able to get around them .

That's what I was able to see from up in the bleechers .... maybe someone closer to the action knows a bit more of what happened .

thanks

Posted by: p@iNn3ck

quote:
Originally posted by BlueZ440
What I want to know is.... how was the pass on DUnk and Farr from Digger? Was it a sweet pass or what? In the live coverage it said white flag out Farr was pressuring Dunk and Doug followed..Then next thing you know Doug beats them both

I wanted to know the same thing...... I miss Banger already.... these new announcers didnt impress me, too much bs'in. Hopefully they get better for the last race and next season.

Posted by: 400exBro

sorry, the pic is a bit blury...
This guy was flying!!!

Posted by: 400exBro

Richard

Posted by: PaulNiemiec#88

quote:
Originally posted by 400exBro
sorry, the pic is a bit blury...
This guy was flying!!!

That guy your refering to is me

haha and thank you very much

Posted by: ShiftRacr400

Farr was running Fox Float shocks

Posted by: ShiftRacr400

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Posted by: Z-400 Mom

quote:
Originally posted by SRH
the 2nd moto jones was pointing at his motor to his mehcanic... itwas making noise

Yep he was.............the guy was ROLLIN".....pullin' some wicked RPM's!

Posted by: Quad18star

quote:
Originally posted by SRH
the 2nd moto jones was pointing at his motor to his mehcanic... itwas making noise

I seen that too ... he was also shaking his head while comming through the mechanics area and comming around the corner right before the Gravity Cavity .

Posted by: Quad18star

Here's a few pictures that I took during the weekend .

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthr...threadid=174531

Posted by: Pro1200

Here are a few nice pics my brother took. Check out the LTZ-450!!http://www.accessphoto.com/zerothread?id=1138. He took like 300, lol. Hey ShiftRacr400, where in CT you live, i'm in Danbury, maybe we can meet up and ride. I'm in the H-bomb films tee w/ John Natalie.

-David

Posted by: Kilabanshee

quote:
Originally posted by PaulNiemiec#88
The landing was actually not to bad. The first time i hit it was in like the second age practice and everyone was telling me 4th wide open. So i did it and landed really really far down deff around 135 and it was a little rough but not to bad. Actually when i hit it the first tiem i seen myself going way past the landing and thought about bailing but im glad i stayed on

Paul you should have hit it the same way you hit the 100' tripple at rausch. That would have sucked to bail on a jump like that!

Posted by: SRH

anyone get any pics of the c classes?

Posted by: alexk

quote:
Originally posted by 400exBro
sorry, the pic is a bit blury...
This guy was flying!!!

Yeah, that's my buddy Paul Niemiec. He races 4 Stroke B and 265 B.

Posted by: Harvey

pro1200......nice (very clear) pics

Posted by: Quad18star

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Posted by: Pro1200

Thanks, my bro has a nice camera.