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250x V.S. Blaster

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Posted by: UrBz 250X

i have a piped 250x with a FMF mega sh*t other mods are suspension (shox axel swing etc) well here my question= people say that the blaster can keep up witha 300ex/250x. well me and this kid who has a blaster bored how much i dont no but its bored we had a race and i smoked this kid heres how it went he beat me off the line and was in front for like a sec or 2 then i hit 3rd gear and just freakin blew past him (hes a little better rider than) well my question is is this normal



Posted by: ethanp87

i think a 250x is faster than a blaster but if somebody has a 240 that really knows how to ride it he will probalty beat it. but it is pretty normal for a 250 to beat a blaster. just wait till you find a 350x motor



Posted by: UrBz 250X

do you think the 350 will be that big a difference



Posted by: PanterA775

Oh yeah theres a big difference. My friends has a 250x and I have a 250x with a 350x engine. Theres jsut so much power in that thing and when I top it out its faster than a topped out kodiak 450 wich tops out at around 65. So yeah besides from the top speed it gives the quad some true balls.



Posted by: drifterx

I drag raced my buddies Blaster, which has a full exhaust, bigger carb, pod air filter with no air box, and is bored 1.00 over I was on my 300, all stock motor, on a slight uphill drag, and we we were neck and neck, but he beat me by about 2-3 feet. He's about 30 pounds lighter than me, and is a pretty good rider. But it took some deep mods to keep up with my stock motor 300.



Posted by: Butters

quote:
Originally posted by UrBz 250X
do you think the 350 will be that big a difference


yeah the 350's rip. a 350x motor in a 250x or 300ex frame will beat 400ex's.



Posted by: UrBz 250X

wut eles do u guys have on your 350x conversions



Posted by: red rider88

i got a 250x with mods. i run in the youth production class in my district and beat the blasters all the time



Posted by: wilkin250r

The 350X will give you a HUGE increase in power.

Don't underestimate those blasters, though. With the proper mods, them little quads can be made pretty fast, easily faster than a stock 400.



Posted by: UrBz 250X

so from wut i here the increase is huge cant wait till i get one any of you guys got one for sale ?



Posted by: quad janern

i have a movie here.

blaster vs. honda400
winner= blaster

but i do think that the blaster has much of new suff on it,pipe,airfilters,jetkits and much more!



Posted by: Steve-O Maximo

I've seen a blaster blow out a 400ex before. It's mostly the rider. If you got a bored out 450R with a novice rider, and a stock blaster with a pro on it, usually the pro will win, unless it's a useless drag where you are just holding the front down.

BTW, the 350x if you do it right, will take on a stock 400ex as a good match. If I don't end up getting this 300ex, I'm going to track down my buddies 350x and see how it is now. It used to be one helluva racer. I know it was a bit hard to control though... He redid the entire front end with lightwieght parts, mostly aluminum and some other lightwieght materials. It was a wheelie m-o-chine.. LoL He'd ride wheelies for miles on that thing.



Posted by: exrider200

whats the difference between a 250x and a 250ex? cause i know a blaster eats a 250ex alive



Posted by: UrBz 250X

250x is practilly a 300ex with kickstart 250ex does not really compare to it



Posted by: Steve-O Maximo

A 250ex is a buttload different from the 250X, the ex is shaft driven, 5 speed automatic clutched, and a weakling. It's motor is the same motor from the "rancher?". Horizontally mounted as well.

The 250X, is basically a 300ex, with lower cc's and kickstart only. The ex is a fun little bike to do wheelies on though, I'll say that much lol



Posted by: WheelerBob

Steve-o have you ever ridden a 250ex. First thing's first, it's no race machine. But having said that I must say i'm very impressed with mine, it is excellent in the wood's and i'v had it up to the fender's in mud with out even the hint of a problem. I did pipe it and jet it for a little extra power. Just so you know i'm 6'4 and about 260 lbs and i'v yet to have to downshift on a hill. The 250ex has a load of bottom end for a 250, plus the fact I CAN THROW THE THING AROUND LIKE A RAG DOLL. BUT you are correct the 250x is a completley different machine and there is no real comparison between the two. I'v owned both and i like the ex better, It's lighter, has e-start & reverse, and maybe it's been a while but I don't remember the x being that much faster, maybe it's me, maybe i'm getting old. Just an opinion from a newbie.



Posted by: atvracer9m

these blaster vs 300ex / blaster vz 250x posts are stupid , they are pointless and all they do is put machines down and everone argues over dumb S**t if you want to make a dumb post you mite as well make a forum for pointless posts



Posted by: WheelerBob

A-men



Posted by: WheelerBob

A-men



Posted by: WheelerBob

Sorry didn't mean to double post , don't know how it happened, stupid back button.



Posted by: exrider200

yah esp the blaster and the 300ex, there way 2 close 2 call, u might as well argue over the rider



Posted by: UrBz 250X

if you dont like the post then dont read and for your information i wasnt asking if i would beat or anything i was just askin if it was normal for a 250x to beat a modded blaster too make sure my buddies quad was not messed up or something so lay the f*ck off



Posted by: exrider200

quote:
Originally posted by UrBz 250X
if you dont like the post then dont read and for your information i wasnt asking if i would beat or anything i was just askin if it was normal for a 250x to beat a modded blaster too make sure my buddies quad was not messed up or something so lay the f*ck off


chill pal, to answer you, yes and no. if the 250x is basically the 300ex, then there way to close to call. give us some riders to argue over.



Posted by: UrBz 250X

naw i acually wasnt mad at all i was just tryin to act like a hard***** and wut do u mean "give us some riders to argue over"



Posted by: exrider200

I mean the 300ex and the blaster are so close to eachother that theres no point arguin ovedr the 2



Posted by: moto_guy15

Yall...check this...a Honda 250EX? That what yall talkin bout?The Sportrax 250EX stock...cannot beat a Yamaha Blaster 200...not if it's life depended on it...the 250ex is third in the entry level class,the Blaster 2nd,and the Kawasaki Mojave 250 is 1st...suck on that you brainless *****es!!



Posted by: WheelerBob

The thread is about 250x vs. blaster, not that it make's any difference. Nobody really care's about stock for stock, hardly anybody ride's a totally stock wheeler, beside's anybody can sink enough cash into almost anything to make it beet almost anything. So it really turn's out to be a contest of money not machine. Just an opinion.



Posted by: moto_guy15

If yall put the same amount of the same type of parts...the Blaster will still whoop ***...i'm not saying this because i'm a "die hard Yamaha fan" or nothin...just facts...the Blaster beat the 250ex by a somewhat large margin....Facts ya B.Itchs!!



Posted by: WheelerBob

I repeat the thread is titled 250X VS BLASTER. The 250X is a totally different bike than the 250EX.I may be wrong on the exact date but they stopped making 250X's around 1992 or so. Just for your info. Beside's your talking 2 vs 4 stroke, and the atv industry is has turned to 4 stroke, after 2006 both blaster's and shee's will dissapear from showroom floor's. And beside's everybody know's it's much cheaper to build a 2 stroker. so back to my original point it's a battle of money. For the cost of a new blaster plus the mod's it would take to beat a piped 400ex or z400 you could practicly by the 400. So why bother.Just my opinion.



Posted by: moto_guy15

OK...Then what the F**K is a ******* 250X?????



Posted by: bradley300

a 250x was made from 87 or 88 to 1992. it was EXACTLY like a 300ex, but it was 250cc, and was a kickstart. after 1992, they added electric start and a different crank stroke, and called it a 300ex



Posted by: MR.BIG

You are correct!



Posted by: MR.BIG

quote:
Originally posted by moto_guy15
If yall put the same amount of the same type of parts...the Blaster will still whoop ***...i'm not saying this because i'm a "die hard Yamaha fan" or nothin...just facts...the Blaster beat the 250ex by a somewhat large margin....Facts ya B.Itchs!!


All I know is when I use to have a mojave 250 that spanked every blaster I ever ran. The 250x is almost as fast so you need to wake up. Yamaha fan I am sorry to hear that how long have you had that problem!



Posted by: bradley300

you obviosly only racd inexperienced, un modded blasters, or absolutly had the crap modded out of your mojave. considering the weight difference betwen a mojave and a blaster, once fully modded, i dont see the mojave making enuff power to out run a blaster



Posted by: hondardr4life

Blasters are very fast when modded out. A 240 blaster will run right with my 330. In my honest opinion 2 strokes are for cuttin grass and 4 strokes are for haulin *** (i love that saying). The only 2 stroke I would run is a trx 250r, I rode one and was very impressed, but if it came down to that or a 450r, I would take the 450. But I would rather have a 250r than my 330. Mojave's are slow, I honestlly can't see one beating a blaster. A 240 blaster will take a piped 400ex in a straight drag, and so will my 330, so both quads are pretty much even. Its all in personal opinion, I like that the 300ex feels a little bigger, and I think it handles much better.



Posted by: MR.BIG

I am talking stock versus stock. Of course if you modify a blaster even with a pipe it will be faster than a mojave.



Posted by: Birddogg

Moto Guy 15. Since we already know that you don't have a clue as to what's going on. Could I ask you to please pull your pants up. You're not a G. Work on your English, and maybe, just maybe, someone will let you pump gas and clean their windshields someday. I'm not attacking you personally, I'm just pointing out the obvious. How much time do you spend sitting in front of your computer trying to figure out how you can "spit it" into text?



Posted by: bwamos

Assuming no rev limiter issues. From my observations. (no real specific averages)

Dunes/Drag race:
Stock 250x vs stock blaster = Blaster win
Stock 300ex vs. stock blaster = 50/50
Light mods (pipe/filter/jet) = 1) 300ex; 2) Blaster; 3) 250x
Medium Mods (cams, reeds, hc piston) = 1) Blaster; 2) 250x; 3) 300ex
Heavy mods (big bore, stroke, porting, valve job, etc): 1) Blaster; 2) 300ex/250x (same quad at this point).

But all still very very close.. almost too close to call edge going to the blaster.

Woods:
Similar but the edge goes to the 300ex; 250x; then Blaster. Just as close but the 300's have a slightly better suspension/weight bias for the woods.

This is completely w/o rider ability of course. A pro class rider can do better in a blaster in the woods.. because they can use the powerbands better.



Posted by: atvridernc

the 250ex has a recon motor. not a rancher. someone said the ex was lighter than the 250x. i cant see how a utility atv with a new body could be lighter than a sport atv.


250x= chain drive, kickstart

250ex= shaft drive, electric start


its not worth arguing what is faster. as long as two quads are remotely close in terms of mods. the better rider will win. unless your just holding the front down.



Posted by: MR.BIG

quote:
Originally posted by hondardr4life
Blasters are very fast when modded out. A 240 blaster will run right with my 330. In my honest opinion 2 strokes are for cuttin grass and 4 strokes are for haulin *** (i love that saying). The only 2 stroke I would run is a trx 250r, I rode one and was very impressed, but if it came down to that or a 450r, I would take the 450. But I would rather have a 250r than my 330. Mojave's are slow, I honestlly can't see one beating a blaster. A 240 blaster will take a piped 400ex in a straight drag, and so will my 330, so both quads are pretty much even. Its all in personal opinion, I like that the 300ex feels a little bigger, and I think it handles much better.


Your 330 will beat a piped 400ex! I am skeptical about that. Is it a close race because it may just be that you are a better rider then who you are racing! I agree with you about the 240 blasters because they are very quick because they are so light!



Posted by: Jay87

quote:
Originally posted by drifterx
I drag raced my buddies Blaster, which has a full exhaust, bigger carb, pod air filter with no air box, and is bored 1.00 over I was on my 300, all stock motor, on a slight uphill drag, and we we were neck and neck, but he beat me by about 2-3 feet. He's about 30 pounds lighter than me, and is a pretty good rider. But it took some deep mods to keep up with my stock motor 300.


did u ever look u are running a 14th and even if he was running a 14 aswell for all u kno u could have 20 inch tires and him have 18 u have to look at that aswell



Posted by: Blue250X

quote:
Originally posted by bwamos
Assuming no rev limiter issues. From my observations. (no real specific averages)

Dunes/Drag race:
Stock 250x vs stock blaster = Blaster win
Stock 300ex vs. stock blaster = 50/50
Light mods (pipe/filter/jet) = 1) 300ex; 2) Blaster; 3) 250x
Medium Mods (cams, reeds, hc piston) = 1) Blaster; 2) 250x; 3) 300ex
Heavy mods (big bore, stroke, porting, valve job, etc): 1) Blaster; 2) 300ex/250x (same quad at this point).

But all still very very close.. almost too close to call edge going to the blaster.

Woods:
Similar but the edge goes to the 300ex; 250x; then Blaster. Just as close but the 300's have a slightly better suspension/weight bias for the woods.

This is completely w/o rider ability of course. A pro class rider can do better in a blaster in the woods.. because they can use the powerbands better.



wrong, the 250x blows away the 300ex in all categories. it is lighter and it revs faster



Posted by: 400exrider5

quote:
Originally posted by Butters
yeah the 350's rip. a 350x motor in a 250x or 300ex frame will beat 400ex's.

you want to race lets go because your 350x aint beating my 400ex sorry. end of story get your facks strait man.



Posted by: BLRacing619

all im saying is a blaster with a pipe and some mx tires and reeds will beat a 400 in short drag...ive done it with 2 EQUAL riders



Posted by: Titusville

Actually, a 250x pulls off the start a LOT quicker, its lighter and it just has that "jump".. A 300ex against a 250x both piped and few small mods are about the same in a longer race, but in a short race like 50 yards, 250x will beat a 300ex



Posted by: fender

A 250X is NOT a 250 cc motor. Some peeps here need to get that straight. My 250x has a 281cc motor (stamped right on the side of the case).



Posted by: Blue250X

quote:
Originally posted by fender
A 250X is NOT a 250 cc motor. Some peeps here need to get that straight. My 250x has a 281cc motor (stamped right on the side of the case).


ok bud, i dont know wat the hell case your usin, but i just tore mine down comepletely and it clearly states 246cm3. just to let u know



Posted by: fender

Interesting. Could it be they changed the motor after they came out with the 300ex? Mine is an 87 (1 year before the 300) and trust me I can read. It says 281cm3. Right on the frame it says 1987 250X. I referenced the engine code on the internet and found some chart w/ engine sizes, models and codes. Low and behold my serial number lined up w/ the 250x (been trying to find out the difference, if any, between my quad and a 300ex). The 300ex actually has a different engine code according to this chart. I'll right my code down again when I get to work tomorrow and hunt down this chart I read.


Either way. a 250x is not a 250cc. 246 maybe, but not 250 Just because they call it a 250 doesn't make it a 250cc as some people have stated.



Posted by: ZeroLogic

they round it out to the nearest 50 number

you might have a 300ex with a kick start conversion is my only guess cause you dont have a electric start or a battire



Posted by: atvracer9m

there isnt a kiskstart conversion... takes to much work



Posted by: Blue250X

quote:
Originally posted by fender
Interesting. Could it be they changed the motor after they came out with the 300ex? Mine is an 87 (1 year before the 300) and trust me I can read. It says 281cm3. Right on the frame it says 1987 250X. I referenced the engine code on the internet and found some chart w/ engine sizes, models and codes. Low and behold my serial number lined up w/ the 250x (been trying to find out the difference, if any, between my quad and a 300ex). The 300ex actually has a different engine code according to this chart. I'll right my code down again when I get to work tomorrow and hunt down this chart I read.


Either way. a 250x is not a 250cc. 246 maybe, but not 250 Just because they call it a 250 doesn't make it a 250cc as some people have stated.




dude...u dont know anything, the 300ex came out in 93! and you obviusly dont have a 250x engine in your 250x





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