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What oil does everyone use?
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Posted by: 400exdude88

I was wondering what oil everyone uses in their 400's?

Posted by: initall

amsoil Synthetic 0 40

Posted by: 400exrider707

GN4 for break in, then switch over to Klotz 10-40. I love Klotz. I would buy it for the smell alone!

Posted by: Rico

I use 20W-50 Mobil 1 advanced formula in the new jug, what used to be the kind with the red cap....

After I use it all up I'm going to give Amsoil a try since they sponsor my website and I can get a good deal on it.

Posted by: jjohnst03

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Originally posted by Rico
I use 20W-50 Mobil 1 advanced formula in the new jug, what used to be the kind with the red cap....

After I use it all up I'm going to give Amsoil a try since they sponsor my website and I can get a good deal on it.

You talkin about the mobil 1 that has the gold cap?

I asked this in another thread, but you havent answered it. Will the new mobil 1 clean 5000 run ok in a 400ex? On mobil 1's spec sheet it says that all except the 10w-40 have friction modifying additives. The API label also does not say that it is energy conserving or anything.

On hondas website and in the manual all it says is to not have friction modifiers, not to say energy conserving, and to have an API of SG or higher.

Posted by: Joe400ex

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Originally posted by 400exrider707
GN4 for break in, then switch over to Klotz 10-40. I love Klotz. I would buy it for the smell alone!

can u buy it a a honda dealer and is that a synthetic oil.

Posted by: duke416ex

gn4

Posted by: UglyMotha™

http://www.klotzlube.com/storeProdDetails.asp?pi=62

Posted by: 416HiRoller

The last time I changed my oil I put mobil 1 Red cap in it (the old red cap) I'm thinking of switching to a different kind of oil though because my clutch is slipping. What should I use that wont make my clutch slip??

Posted by: UglyMotha™

quote:
Originally posted by UglyMotha™

http://www.klotzlube.com/storeProdDetails.asp?pi=62

Posted by: Doibugu2

quote:
Originally posted by UglyMotha™

Why would you spend that much money on the lawn mower engine of yours

I'm running Amsoil now. Found out the warehouse is about 5 minutes from my office.

Posted by: jjohnst03

Does anybody know if the Mobil 1 clean 5000 in the red cap will work or not? I need to take this case I bought back if it wont.

Posted by: UglyMotha™

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Originally posted by Doibugu2
Why would you spend that much money on the lawn mower engine of yours

guess it's just the green thumb in me

the new mobil 1 has like 40% more friction modifiers............ I'm not running it anymore cause of that, not healthy for the clutch in my oppinion, i know Rico was testing it in his machine but I dunno the status last I heard he flew off his quad.......... I don't think it was oil related, according above he's running it but doesn't say how it's goin

Posted by: jjohnst03

I was wondering cause on their site it says that the 10w-40 doesnt have any friction modifiers in it, but that all the other weights did have them.

Posted by: Doibugu2

Ugly, you get the job you were trying for?

Posted by: UglyMotha™

yup, I start on monday, service manager for cycles r us, so I may or may not be down early to hang out with you for hatfield, but i'll let you know the closer it gets, i'll probably be able to pull some strings depending on how busy we are, if not i'll be down thursday night so we'll see

Posted by: Doibugu2

Hey, congrats!

What type of cycles?

Posted by: UglyMotha™

thanks, I was getting tired of my computer job, plus they been dicking me around here for the past few years, I think i'll enjoy my job more wrenching

street bikes, dirt bikes, quads, sleds

Posted by: 416HiRoller

not to steal the thread or anything but does anyone know if quaker state sae 10w-40 will work in my brother's 400ex. He was putting it in a little while ago and I saw that it said on the cover that it had "the power to reduce friction" is this ok or not, because I know that you aren't suppose to use the oil with the friction reducers but I wasn't sure if this was what quaker state had in it.

Anyone know???

Posted by: 400exrider707

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Originally posted by 416HiRoller
not to steal the thread or anything but does anyone know if quaker state sae 10w-40 will work in my brother's 400ex. He was putting it in a little while ago and I saw that it said on the cover that it had "the power to reduce friction" is this ok or not, because I know that you aren't suppose to use the oil with the friction reducers but I wasn't sure if this was what quaker state had in it.

Anyone know???

just as long as its not synthetic automotive oil he'll be fine. Also I get my klotz right at my local honda dealer and he cuts me a pretty sweet deal on it if I buy it a case at a time.

Posted by: Rico

quote:
Originally posted by UglyMotha™
guess it's just the green thumb in me

the new mobil 1 has like 40% more friction modifiers............ I'm not running it anymore cause of that, not healthy for the clutch in my oppinion, i know Rico was testing it in his machine but I dunno the status last I heard he flew off his quad.......... I don't think it was oil related, according above he's running it but doesn't say how it's goin

I"m not having any problems what so ever Ugly. NO clutch slipping at all. Congrates on the new job man, sounds like something I need to do...

Heavier clutch springs are all that are required with the oil with the friction modifiers. I won't mention names but a certain engine builder has been running oil with friction modifiers for many many moons and said all the stories about it being bad for clutches is a crock of poo poo.

The stuff I run does have the gold cap, I think they all have gold caps now actually, at least the new advanced formula stuff. Now what this stuff does to a stock clutch with stock springs I don't know. I know mine works just fine and I have about 6 hours of ride time with the new Mobil 1.

Posted by: UglyMotha™

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Originally posted by Rico
I won't mention names but a certain engine builder has been running oil with friction modifiers for many many moons and said all the stories about it being bad for clutches is a crock of poo poo.

I can believe it

Posted by: 400exbilly

I either use Bel Ray exl 10w-40 or 20w-50 depends on ifyou want it thicker or thinner but i prefer thinner

Posted by: serpent

i use motul 3000 20-50

Posted by: jdboy

Shell Rotella T 5W40