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Elka Rear Linkage?
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Posted by: MXRACER86

Does anybody have the elka rear linkage on there 450r? If so how does it work? Any Problems with it or the shock setup? Please get back to me guys A.S.A.P!!!!!!!

Posted by: MXRACER86

ANYBODY?

Posted by: beak7707

I dont have one personaly, but one of my friends is running it and really likes it. The only thing I know is you have to cut your skid plate other than that its a good deal.

Posted by: trost66

I have it on mine and love it. I got the elka live rate shock and link. Works great

Posted by: 250R4ever

Thinking about how it compares to the houser?

Posted by: kazpr

Have read on here in the past that some people have tried the Elka and the Gt Thunder and prefer the Gt Thunder.

Posted by: spincr4hire

I like the rear elka w/link, mine works pretty dang good.

Posted by: kazpr

spincr4hire what kinda price was the setup? Thanks alot

Posted by: spincr4hire

quote:
Originally posted by kazpr
spincr4hire what kinda price was the setup? Thanks alot

you have a pm

Posted by: kazpr

Hm starting to be ALOT of options now for suspension. Seems some good companies are doing rebuilds now. Hm so many choices!

Posted by: Pappy

quote:
Originally posted by kazpr
Hm starting to be ALOT of options now for suspension. Seems some good companies are doing rebuilds now. Hm so many choices!

exactly. i run the elka set up, and want badly to try GT Thunders unit. houser has it under control as does walsh. i dont think you can go wrong with any of them

Posted by: kazpr

Pappy what do you think about the rebuilds companies are doing w/out the link? Such as the GT Thunder? The whole set from Thunder is pretty dang cheap.

Posted by: Pappy

im pretty sure gt thunders uses a link, of thier own design. everyone that ive talked to said it a damn good set up.

as far as a rebuild alone. i know that de risi has it figured out and technically i cant say what would make it better over the set up with a link.

my personal take is this....you want to prevent the R frame from cracking you get the rear shock fixed pronto

Posted by: kazpr

quote:
Originally posted by Pappy
my personal take is this....you want to prevent the R frame from cracking you get the rear shock fixed pronto

Ya it caused me to flip over once that and my poor skill

Posted by: Pappy

i just think the reason the frame is cracking where it is, is in direct relationship to the stress from the angle of the rear shock. i am by no means a techhead on this stuff, but reading some of whats been posted on this subject combined with what ive seen first hand, discussed with suspension builders and examined frames im pretty certain its the culprit.

Posted by: kazpr

Ok Thanks alot pappy you are a wealth of knowledge and that would make alot of sense.

Posted by: Pappy

i am no weath of knowledge

i just read what real smart people post and come to conclusions based on facts. i cant take credit for anything i know..lol

Posted by: simoniz

I'm in this same boat. Trying to make a decision on whether to spend allot of money on a Holz or Walsh system or going with the Gt Thunder for MX. Decisions...Decisions

Posted by: outacontrol31

i have heard from a very reliable source about the linkage's on 450's he has rode the walsh savior linkage with elka shock and walsh swingarm. he has also rode the holtz linkage and swingarm with axis shock, he sias that the walsh will soak up straight line hit's a bit better but that he prefers the holtz because it gives better traction and suspension travel. with the holtz it is required that you use there swingarm and a longer shock that only axis makes in the right lenght for it to work right, right now i've got elka with stock linkage in the back but as soon as i can i'll be getting the holtz linkage and swingarm combo with the axis shock

Posted by: DirtDevilBT

AC/DC Rocks!!! LOL

I am the guy that will mess and fool around with something for days until its right. I have just started messing with the settings on my shocks and am wondering if I am wasting my time. I run fast trails and desert riding with lots and LOTS of woops, should I just give up now and get the back revalved w/ linkage?

Input here*

Posted by: illusion

where exactly is the R frame cracking at?

Posted by: mephyst

quote:
Originally posted by DirtDevilBT
AC/DC Rocks!!! LOL

I am the guy that will mess and fool around with something for days until its right. I have just started messing with the settings on my shocks and am wondering if I am wasting my time. I run fast trails and desert riding with lots and LOTS of woops, should I just give up now and get the back revalved w/ linkage?

Input here*

Lol, I totally hear you. I haven't gotten the whoops down on my 450 yet either. On my EX I can scream in 4th gear over them but my 450 bucks me all over. Hmm...

Posted by: Pappy

quote:
Originally posted by illusion
where exactly is the R frame cracking at?

other then the usual spots most frames tend to crack, the R has been showing a weakness in the diagramed area (sorry i aint no expert at photoshop..lol)

Posted by: Dave400ex

Pappy from my understanding, there's really no good way to gusset that area up by the upper motor mount correct?

Posted by: Pappy

i dont see really how it can be done so that it garuntee's there wont be any more cracks. you gusset one area and a crack shows up a 1/4 inch from the gusset. the problem is still there just further down the line.

Burgard over plated that area for me in hopes of preventing stress from attacking that area and i sure dont ride hard enough to stress anything except my heart

ive seen some repairs made to a few pro and pro am riders quads and they are extensive. mainly that type of work is used once normal gussets have failed.

Posted by: Dave400ex

Sounds like to me Honda needs to do some redesigning.
Also Pappy can you PM me a price on having both my 400ex sidecases done in Hotcoats Silvervein? I know you had that special going before, but not sure now.

Posted by: Pappy

$25 a side

Posted by: exrider44

When I ride down in south jersey there is alot of whoops and I decided to get the GT Thunder revalve and linkage. Its a great price and for the change it made its well worth it. I can hammer thru whoops no problem now. Last time I was down the Jersey shore riding there was a kid with a stock linkage in front of me I wanted to see how bad it looked from behind. Lemme tell ya he was all over the place. I def recommend the GT Thunder its a good upgrade if you dont want to drop alot of cash right away. Pappy do you powdercoat frames. If so how much do you charge?

Posted by: copedaddy

i have the elka rear link with the elka rear dual rate, comp adj. ssd shock on my 450r and have no complaints. it lowered the ride and soaks up everything that i've thrown at it. i have it for sale if interested. also have long travel front. elka quad rate, comp. adj. ssd with piggyback res. will sell all 3 and linkage for $1700. contact me at copelandmarty@hotmail.com. only raced about 5 times.

Posted by: D-7#61-450r

Copedaddy you have a pm

Posted by: copedaddy

i don't have a pm. just contact me at copelandmarty@hotmail.com

Posted by: kazpr

quote:
Originally posted by Dave400ex
Sounds like to me Honda needs to do some redesigning.

Ya I bet they would sell ALOT of frames if they did.

Posted by: mikes450r

hey guys i have a quick question..im about to go through my whole 450 upgrading..i was just going to put a elka shock on the rear..but it sounds like i have to do more..i wont be changing or extending the swing arm..what do you guys think i should do to fix the bucking and the craking of the frames...thanks for the help

Posted by: kazpr

The Elka rear shock and the Link will help both ALOT!! The longer swingarm is not necessary. Good luck!!

Posted by: mikes450r

which link and shock should i get for the rear...im no mxer just love to ride..which would be the better combination of the two

Posted by: dirtriderex

How much do you guys pay for the rear and front Elka suspension?

Posted by: copedaddy

i have a set of elka's for sale.
FRONT: LOND TRAVEL QUAD RATE,COMP. ADJ., SSD, PIGGYBACK RES.
REAR: DUAL RATE, COPM. ADJ. ,SSD, REMOTE RES.
ALSO HAVE REAR LINKAGE
THESE ARE OFF OF A 450R. ONLY BEEN USED FOR 5 RACES.

PAID $2300 WIL SELL ALL FOR $1800 CAN SHIP OUT AS SOON AS YOU ARE READY. LET ME KNOW. CONTACT ME AT copelandmarty@hotmail.com